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If you lived in London, England which US funded terror group would you rather be bombed/gassed by ?

The Taliban (funded and trained by the Americans)   41 votes - 23 %
The Irish Republican Army (funded by the Americans)   130 votes - 76 %
 
171 Total Votes

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Misuse of "American," and further observ (5.00 / 1) (#1)
by moriveth on Sun Oct 7th, 2001 at 03:29:52 PM PST
Surely you realize that Canadians and other non-USian Americans had no part in the creation of the Taliban.

To return to the question, England, reduced to little more than the US's lapdog in recent decades, has minimal relevance in current international politics. Even its domestic terrorists are a pale and ineffectual shadow of, for example, the US's McVeigh.

Consequently, what international terrorist would bother targeting England, eliciting little more than a collective snore from the Americas and Continental Europe? There is little doubt, however, that if even a mediocre terrorist attack were directed at England, the sudden international prestige would be largely welcomed by the population. I would not be shocked if Tony Blair secretly orders such an attack.


American, yada, yada, yada (5.00 / 2) (#8)
by Wiggy on Mon Oct 8th, 2001 at 02:52:13 AM PST
Surely you realize that Canadians and other non-USian Americans had no part in the creation of the Taliban

Bet they did. Anyway, surely you must recognise that Canada is not a proper country (it belongs to us British), and therefore you are all in one big camp. And if you are referring to 'other' non-USian countries, I can only guess that you're referring to Mexico or something. No shit they had nothing to do with the Taliban - they were all whacked out on dope trying to climb the fences along the US border to get in to be bothering about pissing off the Soviets in 1989.

To return to the question, England, reduced to little more than the US's lapdog in recent decades, has minimal relevance in current international politics. Even its domestic terrorists are a pale and ineffectual shadow of, for example, the US's McVeigh.

If that's the case, why the fuck are we still on the UN security council, and in the G7, NATO and the rest of Europe is begging for us to fall in and sign upto federalism? You see, the thing is, Britain has a foreign policy that other people take notice of. We will get involved, and constantly do. The US however, doesn't listen to anybody. Except recently when they realised the only way any of this 'war on terrorism' shit was going to work was if the rest of the World accepted it. The reason Britain (please, it's not just England), gets accused of being the lapdogs is because we're the only people who will talk to the US in a semi-respectful tone, and everybody else comes and pushes us in a 'you go and talk to them' way.

Consequently, what international terrorist would bother targeting England, eliciting little more than a collective snore from the Americas and Continental Europe? There is little doubt, however, that if even a mediocre terrorist attack were directed at England, the sudden international prestige would be largely welcomed by the population. I would not be shocked if Tony Blair secretly orders such an attack.

Very funny. In actual fact, terrorism is so common place, that you're right it would produce a collective snore. Nobody cares, because it is not a rare occurence. As for the population welcoming such action - well, I think you MUST be smoking crack (sic) to think that. I don't particularly want my home or office being blown to bits. However I won't run around like a child declaring war on a country that may have nothing to do with it.

As for the 'mediocrity' of terrorism in Britain, the body count is currently around the 5,000 mark since the troubles began, and rising. A number not that dissimilar to the WTC attack.


Canada belongs to the Brits? (1.00 / 2) (#9)
by Anonymous Reader on Tue Oct 9th, 2001 at 01:19:56 PM PST
Yeah, whatever.

I'd like to see you guys take some "ownership"
over Canada.. It'd be alot like the revolutionary war, except real quick, and nobody from the western hemisphere would die..


Remind me again (5.00 / 1) (#11)
by Anonymous Reader on Wed Oct 10th, 2001 at 03:17:09 AM PST
Who's that woman who appears on Canadian coins ?

God save your queen.


 
G7 / Nato / UNSec (5.00 / 2) (#10)
by Anonymous Reader on Tue Oct 9th, 2001 at 01:23:22 PM PST
If that's the case, why the fuck are we still on the UN security council, and in the G7, NATO


So the US will get two votes instead of one?


The US already has two votes... (none / 0) (#18)
by Anonymous Reader on Thu Oct 11th, 2001 at 06:11:17 PM PST
...it's just that the UK casts one of them.


 
Britishers (5.00 / 1) (#13)
by Dexter Descarte on Wed Oct 10th, 2001 at 01:29:43 PM PST
You see, the thing is, Britain has a foreign policy that other people take notice of.

God it's hard not to. Of course us Americans have to clean up the messes you make (cough cough Israel cough) but everyone certainly notices.

We will get involved, and constantly do.

Which explains why things are constantly fucked up.

Except recently when they realised the only way any of this 'war on terrorism' shit was going to work was if the rest of the World accepted it.

I guess that Gulf War coalition thing was a mirage.

As for the 'mediocrity' of terrorism in Britain, the body count is currently around the 5,000 mark since the troubles began, and rising. A number not that dissimilar to the WTC attack.

Seeing as how your 'troubles' with Ireland have been ongoing for 600 fucking years I don't think it compares to 6000 deaths in about an hour.


Uhhhh... (none / 0) (#14)
by legolas on Wed Oct 10th, 2001 at 05:35:43 PM PST
Of course us Americans have to clean up the messes you make (cough cough Israel cough) but everyone certainly notices.

I think, by anybody's definition, Israel is most definitely not cleaned up. In fact, some would argue that Israel should be a 3rd option on the poll, since the state of Israel violates human rights, illegally occupies territory, and harbors known war criminals.

--legolas


Hold up there son (none / 0) (#16)
by Dexter Descarte on Thu Oct 11th, 2001 at 08:03:53 AM PST
The point is that Britain created the situation that the US is trying (however lamely) to set aright... and for our attempts at fixing the limey's mess we get planes rammed into our buildings.


 
Yah (none / 0) (#17)
by Anonymous Reader on Thu Oct 11th, 2001 at 11:49:09 AM PST
In fact, some would argue that Israel should be a 3rd option on the poll...

It's not like Israelis haven't bombed the british before.


 
IRA Has Sex Appeal (5.00 / 3) (#2)
by MessiahWWKD on Sun Oct 7th, 2001 at 04:18:51 PM PST
We Americans did not purposely train the Taliban to be our enemy. We thought they would help our quest for world domination.
I also can't believe people would rather be bombed by the Taliban when the IRA has some of the sexiest female terrorists in the world! If you've ever seen the episode of Witchblade where the female member of the IRA kills Sara's boyfriend, you know how hot they are. Besides, my future wife is also part Irish. Simply put, anybody who would rather be bombed by the Taliban is an idiot.
Guardian angel, heavenly friend, walk with me 'til the journey's end.

Not to mention (none / 0) (#15)
by Anonymous Reader on Thu Oct 11th, 2001 at 05:36:18 AM PST
they also shot a freaking missile at MI-6 headquarters! Come on, even if you work there, you've got to admit that's pretty damn cool. It's like a scene out of James Bond or something. And no one was killed (well, not in that attack) so we can all laugh it off without feeling too guilty.


 
my vote: (5.00 / 3) (#3)
by osm on Sun Oct 7th, 2001 at 06:06:45 PM PST
Natalie Portman (US Citizen).


Nat (5.00 / 3) (#4)
by nx01 on Sun Oct 7th, 2001 at 06:19:50 PM PST
Doesn't she have dual citizenship in US/Israel?


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so much the better (5.00 / 3) (#5)
by osm on Sun Oct 7th, 2001 at 06:24:37 PM PST
we should air drop Natalie Portman posters onto afghanistan.


 
The IRA, of course (5.00 / 2) (#6)
by sdem on Sun Oct 7th, 2001 at 08:07:16 PM PST
Because even if they are gassing you, they speak with such a nice accent. Plus, Sinead O'Connor is much hotter than some screeching Arabic woman in a shawl.


 
IRA (5.00 / 2) (#7)
by nobbystyles on Mon Oct 8th, 2001 at 01:58:19 AM PST
They are only mildly muderous, content to cause only upto 200 deaths in one attack and they don't carry out attacks on the USA which we all know is the sacred home of Freedom and Democracy and is a beacon to the rest of the world.




 
I don't know about the rest of you... (none / 0) (#12)
by Duke Machesne on Wed Oct 10th, 2001 at 07:50:58 AM PST
but I'll take my chances with a nice little car bomb over anthrax/smallpox/bubonic plague any day of the week.


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