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 Utopia?

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Jun 04, 2002
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I'm interested in hearing your ideas of a Perfect World (or as close to perfect as possible). I'm just kind of curious, and try to be as serious as you can--I know I'm asking a bit much here, but please try.

By the way, I think I'm getting a VW Golf. I feel so guilty and sick about how happy it makes me.

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We already live in a perfect world. (none / 0) (#1)
by dmg on Tue Jun 4th, 2002 at 11:57:39 AM PST
Everything is perfect. Some of us just can't see it for what it is.



time to give a Newtonian demonstration - of a bullet, its mass and its acceleration.
-- MC Hawking

 
Well... (none / 0) (#2)
by hauntedattics on Tue Jun 4th, 2002 at 03:24:39 PM PST
a good start to a perfect world is not feeling so guilty about being happy to get a new car. Just enjoy the feeling and be realistic about its appropriate place on the Happiness Scale - you know, higher than looking forward to a Big Mac, quite a bit lower than the happiness that comes from loving others.

More peace-and-love, Kumbayah type life affirmations to follow, perhaps even tomorrow once I've brushed my teeth.



 
Perfect World.. Hahah. (none / 0) (#3)
by Anonymous Reader on Tue Jun 4th, 2002 at 10:17:25 PM PST
There will never be a perfect world.. Unless there was a mass genocide, which I think would not be a good thing, then there will always be ignorant, racist, sexist, and other types of people who will always ruin society.


 
Read Plato's Republic [nt] (none / 0) (#4)
by SpaceGhoti on Wed Jun 5th, 2002 at 09:27:51 PM PST



A troll's true colors.

WTF? (none / 0) (#5)
by Anonymous Reader on Wed Jun 5th, 2002 at 11:49:03 PM PST
You're kidding me, right? The Republic was pretty much borderline fascism (unlike the Laws, which was just straight out fascism). Is that your idea of a perfect world?


What's your beef with Fascism ? (none / 0) (#6)
by dmg on Thu Jun 6th, 2002 at 12:05:08 PM PST
It seems to work OK in the USA, Europe, China, and various other places.

time to give a Newtonian demonstration - of a bullet, its mass and its acceleration.
-- MC Hawking

Yet... (none / 0) (#7)
by Anonymous Reader on Thu Jun 6th, 2002 at 11:34:31 PM PST
And those countries are far from what I would call perfect.


 
Why not? (none / 0) (#8)
by SpaceGhoti on Fri Jun 7th, 2002 at 06:32:33 AM PST
People take Machiavelli's Prince seriously. Why can't I cite Plato's Republic?


A troll's true colors.

 
Utopia? (none / 0) (#9)
by mrt76 on Fri Jun 7th, 2002 at 01:20:59 PM PST
<trip>
Utopia is when we are freed from our physical prisons, and our reliance on anything tangible. Imagine all living beings as merely orbs of light...all unique in subtle but definite ways. Two orbs passing through each other would be like a Vulcan mind meld; as would 30 of them (us) grouping up. Imagine not having to sleep, eat, walk or drive. How much of out lifetimes do we spend maintaining and beautifying the very things that truly inhibit us? Absorbing energy, and at same time emitting it for others. Food, water, shelter??? How primitive.
</trip>
"...I'm in no mood for a freak show this afternoon..."

When you're at it... (none / 0) (#10)
by The Mad Scientist on Fri Jun 7th, 2002 at 02:17:43 PM PST
...why not give up the spatial limitations as well? Why orbs of light, when we could be delocalized all over the Universe - omnipresent?

Besides, emitting light costs energy and is only good as visual candy.


dont be silly... (none / 0) (#11)
by mrt76 on Fri Jun 7th, 2002 at 02:25:24 PM PST
now you're just being unrealistic...
"...I'm in no mood for a freak show this afternoon..."

 

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