Trolling - A thing of the past ?

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Trolling - A thing of the past ?

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Aug 21, 2002

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Interesting little article here that posits the hypothesis that all the good trolls have been done.

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For some reason this reminds me of the myth of Charles H. Duell, U.S. Commissioner of Patents, in 1899, who is alleged to have said "everything that can be invented has been invented" when he advocated closing the patent office.

I disagree that the anti-trolls have won. I put the case that the trolls have won, since the aim in the first place was "education through misinformation".

Having said that, there have not been too many brilliant trolls on teh slashduh lately.

I confess I used to enjoy reading the good trolls from the good old days of trolltalk, 10gramspoppylatex and k22320inchfan somehow the goings on at sid=20721 seem like a poor facsimile.

What do others think ? Is trolling dead ?

	I think the adequacy paradigm has been too success (none / 0) (#1)
	by Adam Rightmann on Wed Aug 21st, 2002 at 05:24:29 AM PST

	ful, in that other weblogs have seen how an aggressive anti-troll philosophy, like ours, can result in a board that's nearly troll free. A. Rightmann

	Anyone remember MEEPT? (none / 0) (#2)
	by eSolutions on Wed Aug 21st, 2002 at 09:27:30 AM PST

	MEEPT was great. MEEPT referred to himself in the third person. MEEPT made up songs about slashdot articles. MEEPT's posts were hilarious. Then MEEPT died in a Richard Stevens double suicide. http://www.thegloriousmeept.com/ http://groups.google.com/groups?q=MEEPT ------- You wanna play the blind man, go walk with a Shepherd. But me, my eyes are wide fuckin' open.

	Trolling is alive: (none / 0) (#3)
	by faustus on Wed Aug 21st, 2002 at 11:38:21 AM PST

	./ Troll USENET troll USENET troll #2 --You seem to be suffering from a liberal-arts education.

	Hmm. (none / 0) (#4)
	by because it isnt on Wed Aug 21st, 2002 at 12:16:44 PM PST

	Dann Gun seems to write for the AQ under the psuedonym "faustus". adequacy.org -- because it isn't

	Wise words of wisdom indeed. (none / 0) (#5)
	by Anonymous Reader on Wed Aug 21st, 2002 at 12:43:33 PM PST

	<i> Where would he be without Vanilla Ice, or Snow?</i><p> Props to my man Vanilla. A true pioneer.

	trolling is sick, but alive... and awaiting the re (none / 0) (#6)
	by Anonymous Reader on Wed Aug 21st, 2002 at 02:43:21 PM PST

	turn of its leader. trollaxor, where art thou?

	Added homoeroticism (none / 0) (#7)
	by Anonymous Reader on Wed Aug 21st, 2002 at 03:35:26 PM PST

	Trollaxor, wherefore art thou?

	You jerk (none / 0) (#28)
	by Anonymous Reader on Thu Aug 29th, 2002 at 01:56:29 AM PST

	Wherefore is equivalent to "why," not "where." Jesus. Every highschool freshman forced to study Romeo and Juliet knows that.

	TC (none / 0) (#15)
	by Anonymous Reader on Thu Aug 22nd, 2002 at 06:08:04 PM PST

	This is it. He's probably in jail.

	Nah, (none / 0) (#8)
	by Anonymous Reader on Wed Aug 21st, 2002 at 10:33:23 PM PST

	Trolling is alive and well.

	Obviously you are confused (none / 0) (#10)
	by First Incision on Thu Aug 22nd, 2002 at 11:09:34 AM PST

	There are no trolls on Adequacy. I thought everybody was clear on this. _ _ Do you suffer from late-night hacking? Ask your doctor about Protonix.

	Let Me Ask You a question... (none / 0) (#11)
	by Anonymous Reader on Thu Aug 22nd, 2002 at 12:45:58 PM PST

	What kind of bomb was dropped on Hiroshima on August 6th, 1945? Nuclear? Or conventional?

	The bomb (none / 0) (#13)
	by First Incision on Thu Aug 22nd, 2002 at 04:05:30 PM PST

	I assume you are referring to this comment. I was playing a bit of devil's advocate there to show the folly of Mr. Gohomeandshoveit's logic. He was asking stupid questions, and I was providing stupid answers. Maybe mine was a false hope, but I was hoping he might see his mistakes. You asked me a direct question, and I shall answer it. If I am to believe what I have been told, the US military dropped an atomic bomb on Hiroshima. _ _ Do you suffer from late-night hacking? Ask your doctor about Protonix.

	times have changed (5.00 / 1) (#9)
	by mjl on Thu Aug 22nd, 2002 at 04:00:34 AM PST

	from when the adequacy editors ran slashdot. We don't have a mod-point farm for one. looking back at some of the more successful trolls from the likes of LAT and KTB - a significant number of posts exclaim "how did this get 5 Insightful!!" Slashdot has a few good trolls around - jcg's accounts are worth monitoring. wcb doesn't seem active currently, although he has had some good outings a month back. I find PG and tps12 rather amusing, although they are currently crippled with the two-post-a-day limit slashdot imposes on them. sorry to anyone i left out. I'd really like to see a week of quality trolling. it seems that adequacy's editors have moved on from slashdot - but perhaps they might think of doing a Monday to Friday spree where you show slashdot who is in charge. Bring some of those accounts out of retirement! How does next week sound?

	Depends on who you ask. (5.00 / 2) (#12)
	by RobotSlave on Thu Aug 22nd, 2002 at 02:20:46 PM PST

	Well, if you ask the envirobots, the decline in anything will always be due to Man's Decimation Of Mother Nature. In this case, they tend to blame the commercial fisheries. The commercial fisheries, for their part, tend to blame trade agreements for the decline in stocks, and concomitant decline the yields of long-line and other types of harvest. Governments, predictably, blame other governments. Everyone blames the Japanese. Personally, I think the dramatic increase in aquaculture in the past decade is the root cause. Sometimes it seems like every last piece of king salmon purchased in the lower 48 these days was farm-raised in Vancouver, doesn't it? © 2002, RobotSlave. You may not reproduce this material, in whole or in part, without written permission of the owner.

	I think you misunderstood. (none / 0) (#14)
	by Anonymous Reader on Thu Aug 22nd, 2002 at 05:45:04 PM PST

	I think when dmg referred to 'trolling' he was talking about the abominable and abhorrent practice whereby an individual, seeking attention, posts an inflammatory or insincere message to a public bulletin board or forum on the Internet, hoping to elicit responses from misguided people who believe he means what he says. This practice is very common at such forums as masturbating-liberalists.org and basement-dwelling-homos.org Its a question of context you see.

	Don't be stupid. (5.00 / 2) (#17)
	by RobotSlave on Fri Aug 23rd, 2002 at 01:14:19 AM PST

	Of course it's a question of context, silly. The context here is Adequacy, and Adequacy strictly prohibits the publication of any material relating to the horrific practices you describe. Ergo, dmg, an Editor, can not possibly mean what you think he means. Though I'll admit his phrasing is a little odd, the only thing this diary entry can possibly refer to is fishing. © 2002, RobotSlave. You may not reproduce this material, in whole or in part, without written permission of the owner.

	I thought (1.00 / 1) (#18)
	by Anonymous Reader on Fri Aug 23rd, 2002 at 01:28:43 AM PST

	the prohibition was against the practice in question itself, but not mentioning the practice. After all, prohibiting any mention of the practice would logically prohibit notification that the practice was prohibited. Now say that last sentence five times fast.

	You confuse only yourself. (5.00 / 2) (#19)
	by RobotSlave on Fri Aug 23rd, 2002 at 03:50:49 AM PST

	We have internal guidelines, which we do not release for reasons of security. The policy is strictly enforced, and adheres at all times to the internal guideliines. Feel free to make up your own pretend guidelines and bleat and bleat about them until you are blue in the face, but don't expect us to pay much attention to you. © 2002, RobotSlave. You may not reproduce this material, in whole or in part, without written permission of the owner.

	Then I suggest... (1.00 / 1) (#20)
	by Anonymous Reader on Fri Aug 23rd, 2002 at 07:47:23 AM PST

	...that you remove a certain notice that appears above the comment entry text box. You know, "[redacted] is not tolerated here. Any comment may be deleted by a site admin, and all [redacted] will be deleted. This is your fair warning." Failure to do so would constitute a serious security breach, and I would be forced to notify the FBI that your site is wide open to terrorist infiltration. Judging by a certain other diary entry, I fear I may be too late.

	I despair, sometimes. (5.00 / 2) (#21)
	by RobotSlave on Fri Aug 23rd, 2002 at 10:13:01 AM PST

	I just told you that the policy is strictly enforced, and adheres to internal guidelines at all times. Therefore, you colossal idiot, no part of Adequacy is in violation of the policy. Once again, we pay no attention to your made-up imaginary pretend rules that exist only in your own head. © 2002, RobotSlave. You may not reproduce this material, in whole or in part, without written permission of the owner.

	OK, I get it (5.00 / 1) (#22)
	by Anonymous Reader on Fri Aug 23rd, 2002 at 12:42:24 PM PST

	This warning: "Trolling is not tolerated here. Any comment may be deleted by a site admin, and all trolls will be deleted. This is your fair warning." must logically refer to fishing. I admit it seems odd to ban fishing on a weblog, but this is your site, and you are the editors. If you were to decree that underwear were to be worn on the outside, I suppose I would have no choice but to strip down and invert my apparel order posthaste. Thank you for clearing this up for me, kind sir. I shall endeavor to adhere as strictly to your guidelines as you yourself do.

	Liar, liar. (5.00 / 1) (#25)
	by RobotSlave on Fri Aug 23rd, 2002 at 02:53:15 PM PST

	Pants on fire. © 2002, RobotSlave. You may not reproduce this material, in whole or in part, without written permission of the owner.

	You know, (none / 0) (#23)
	by Anonymous Reader on Fri Aug 23rd, 2002 at 01:10:12 PM PST

	children who only play when they're winning wind up playing by themselves. Tell me about your childhood, 'Slave. Was it lonely?

	I know you are... (5.00 / 1) (#24)
	by RobotSlave on Fri Aug 23rd, 2002 at 02:51:46 PM PST

	but what am I? Look, when all you can come up with is to take your opponent's material and make a lame effort to turn back on its creator, you've lost. Most of us learned this in the schoolyard, but it might take you socially retarded types a little longer to figure things out. © 2002, RobotSlave. You may not reproduce this material, in whole or in part, without written permission of the owner.

	You mean (none / 0) (#26)
	by Anonymous Reader on Fri Aug 23rd, 2002 at 05:45:53 PM PST

	this was all created material? I thought we were seriously discussing this site's policies. I'm terribly sorry! I guess in that case, you truly did win. You're a wily and formidable opponent, RobotSlave.

	Not At All (none / 0) (#16)
	by jvance on Thu Aug 22nd, 2002 at 09:11:01 PM PST

	In fact, trolling the trolls has become very popular. -- Adequacy has turned into a cesspool consisting of ... blubbering, superstitious fools arguing with smug, pseudointellectual assholes. -AR

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