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Emily Dickinson #320
We play at Paste-- 25%
Till qualified, for Pearl-- 0%
Then, drop the Paste-- 0%
And deem ourself a fool-- 0%
0%
The Shapes-- though-- were similar-- 50%
And our new Hands 0%
Learned <I>Gem</I>-Tactics-- 0%
Practicing <I>Sands</I>-- 25%
c. 1862/1891 0%

Votes: 4

 You know...

 Author:  Topic:  Posted:
Jan 22, 2002
 Comments:
Some think I'm cruel, but just look around. I only wish I could be this cruel. I shall try, that's for sure.
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For those following my own pet theories, the rape theme in Donne's Holy Sonnet #14 is not some joke. You think Donne just pulled that out of his ass? Where do you think the words ravish, rapture, and ursurp, along with many others, come from? It is an interconnected motif. And it isn't just related words. Donne got all that stuff about being "ravished" (raped) by God right out of the Old Testament, especially the prophets. What does Ezekiel say about God's having chosen him? Or Elijah? Mmmmm?

It all stems from a very visceral concept of what possession (!), ownership, and dominion mean. Maybe read some St. Theresa of Avila if you think it's some random fluke I'm on about.

But that isn't even my pet theory. I'm more interested in drawing out the geneology of fantasy wankers. They start with the Pre-Rahpaelite Brotherhood c. 1850, but that has roots in Romanticism. The line goes low through Robert E. Howard and high though His Wankship, JRR Tolkien, and soars on to Thomas Kinkade's self-indulgence and today's stunning variety of fantasy literature, games, toys, movies, theme parks, and live action bimbos.

I also have some ideas about how the Muse (or some damn thing) speaks through artists, without their really taking part in the creative process. Plato said this. It's not unrelated to enthrallment, possession, ecstasy, and enthusiasm.

Ecstasy is to be outside your body, enthusiasm is to have God enter you, and we've already discussed enthrallment and possession.

See where I'm going with all this?


that's what I was getting at... (none / 0) (#1)
by nathan on Tue Jan 22nd, 2002 at 10:38:28 AM PST
Here.

At the risk of sounding like Hegel, I'm going to claim that, when we most fully express our most intimately personal selves, we are closest to God. Just look at the Patriarchs.

Nathan
--
Li'l Sis: Yo, that's a real grey area. Even by my lax standards.

 
Holy Stimulation? (none / 0) (#2)
by Anonymous Reader on Tue Jan 22nd, 2002 at 02:20:24 PM PST
I fully admit that I risk sounding a little postmodernist and lifesyle section here, but when my girlfiend has me on the point on ecstasy, and then rudely rips out my butt plug, are my selfless cries of endearment and my impending orgasm immanent or divine? I'd just like to know, as I've always considered myself an atheist.

gibididi.


 
Question (none / 0) (#3)
by hauntedattics on Wed Jan 23rd, 2002 at 08:34:38 AM PST
Where can I find more of those Donne sonnets? Is there a website somewhere? I found #14 to be quite ravishing (so to speak) and eerily close to my own current musings.

I know I could just go to Amazon and order them but I'm too damn' lazy.

Oh, and I'd respond to some of your ideas but my own on these subjects are embarrassingly simplistic and awkward, just like a 14-year-old when she reads Catcher in the Rye for the first time.



Ouch. (none / 0) (#4)
by hauntedattics on Thu Jan 24th, 2002 at 08:56:25 AM PST
Never mind about the website, elenchos. This entry has been bugging me since I wrote it, because our friend Mr. Error could come along and call me a great big hypocrite for wanting to find some sonnets 'free' on the web. So I'll just go to Amazon and order 'em. Or there's always the library.

Cheers,
HA


 

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