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Votes: 60

bored, here's a poll for you

Author:

innominate

Topic:

Diaries

Posted:

Jun 24, 2002

Comments:

Bored, bored, bored. So here's a thinker of a poll for your voracious anti-everything appetites. More... (read the whole thing; assumptions are not welcome)

More diaries by innominate

	First entry
	1000 voices, drilling your thoughts every day.
	Hidden Agenda

Since Adequacy felt it necessary to NOT post my story a month or so ago, I feel it's necessary to find out what you people are all about. If you have the confront to answer the poll I attached to this entry with total and complete honesty, (that means you aren't trying to lie to yourself; you aren't concerned with social veneer; and you really don't care what others think), then you are ahead of the game of life. Oh yes, it is a game, and you have to put some action into it to survive. Because we don't get out alive, until we ALL can get out. So, here's my poll. It's NOT anti-anything, it's an attempt to get you people to look at your own thoughts, by force if necessary, so maybe you can stop being assholes to other people because of what you do to them. This poll is based on reincarnation. I believe in it, in fact I can't imagine it being any other way. So, knowing this, put the answers in order based on what you would want to be in your next life. (note: you closet racists out there; don't bother pointing your finger at me. I have too many friends of all colors, and we enjoy laughing at people like you for making your own racist tendencies very plain for all to see. It also shows your lack of responsibility for choosing your own current situation. Prove me wrong by showing me how you didn't fill in a poll like this in your last life! Also, in response to those that love to point this out, the list is in order of lightest to darkest; because I wanted it that way. Enjoy!!

	Lot of potentialities left... (none / 0) (#1)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Jun 24th, 2002 at 12:19:06 PM PST

	Alien, why not. You know the story of that African American who died and was given a second chance. He has the choice for his new life, so, having suffered a lot of being a negro, he asked to be white, and to be so appreciated that the white ladies would come and sit on him, and then was re-born as a toilet seat?

	true, but... (1.00 / 1) (#2)
	by innominate on Mon Jun 24th, 2002 at 12:34:12 PM PST

	for this experiment, I am betting that after body death you don't go straight to being objects or less, instead your enlightenment allows you more freedom to choose. Alien would be a good choice, but then, who's to say this isn't the alien we chose before we were born?

	I hadn't thought of that (none / 0) (#31)
	by Anonymous Reader on Tue Jun 25th, 2002 at 01:08:35 PM PST

	Very interesting thought (Alien being our precedent choice). As for the second joke, I do not believe in metempsychosis. But in reincarnation yes. But while believing in reincarnation, I am sure the next time the lame asshole who changed the poll will reincarnate it will be as real bullshit, and not a human ersazt.

	spot on (none / 0) (#47)
	by innominate on Wed Jun 26th, 2002 at 06:41:07 AM PST

	I share your feelings on the 'lame asshole'. I can only hope that Karma comes back on him swiftly, so he can have the benefit of grace; however ugly or beautiful it may be to him.

	I believe... (5.00 / 2) (#4)
	by tkatchev on Mon Jun 24th, 2002 at 01:46:53 PM PST

	...that the original joke referenced "being snow-white and getting more ass than you can handle", or something like that. -- Peace and much love...

	Russian Joke (none / 0) (#10)
	by First Incision on Mon Jun 24th, 2002 at 05:36:16 PM PST

	I thought of you today, when I heard a funny joke on NPR (of all places). In 1991, Russians were using the newspaper Pravda for toilet paper. Now they can use whatever toilet paper they want. _ _ Do you suffer from late-night hacking? Ask your doctor about Protonix.

	Hey... (none / 0) (#12)
	by hauntedattics on Mon Jun 24th, 2002 at 05:57:21 PM PST

	I heard that today too. What a strange and amazing coincidence. We must be soulmates.

	It's not working. (none / 0) (#16)
	by tkatchev on Mon Jun 24th, 2002 at 10:33:09 PM PST

	Russophobia is a difficult skill that needs years of training. Try making fun of Jews or "niggers" next time -- that usually works much more reliably. -- Peace and much love...

	not so (none / 0) (#18)
	by nathan on Tue Jun 25th, 2002 at 01:32:52 AM PST

	I can scarcely remember a time when I wasn't afraid of Russians. Usage note: I see "It isn't working" as subtly preferable here because it emphasises the negativity of the phrase, in my opinion - although "It's not working" is hardly wrong and the point is very much open to debate! Nathan -- Li'l Sis: Yo, that's a real grey area. Even by my lax standards.

	I see. (none / 0) (#5)
	by tkatchev on Mon Jun 24th, 2002 at 01:50:04 PM PST

	You seem to have a very "cute" view of ethnicity -- in shades of gray from "white" to "black". How incredibly racist. Just a small counter-example for you -- Afghanistan, one of the most useless hole-in-theground middle-of-nowhere places in the world is also almost completely "white" racially. -- Peace and much love...

	interesting... (1.00 / 1) (#6)
	by innominate on Mon Jun 24th, 2002 at 01:56:40 PM PST

	My 'cute' view of ethnicity stems from my knowledge that I am NOT my body. I'll bet, given the 'incredibly racist' comment you like to cut and paste on many entries on this site that you are very religious, and that you believe that there is only one God, and that you are right and everyone else is wrong, and that God will provide for you. Would I be right in that guess, because I have more to say, but the ball is in your court.

	Reformat and repost. (none / 0) (#7)
	by tkatchev on Mon Jun 24th, 2002 at 02:13:12 PM PST

	I cannot understand what you are trying to say. Seriously, people think that just because they are smart enough to turn on the computer they do not need to format their posts properly -- but in this case, the form of your post seriously hinders its content. Please repost. Anyways, the point of my comment was that classifying people as "caucasian" and "negro" is simply ridiculous. That sort of reasoning is what made Michael Jackson possible. -- Peace and much love...

	anti-reformat and repost (1.00 / 1) (#8)
	by innominate on Mon Jun 24th, 2002 at 02:26:48 PM PST

	I am not a sheep, read it as it is posted. Your excuse is noted. You might consider reading the original post again, as you are way off base with your ranting.

	cretinul (none / 0) (#13)
	by nathan on Mon Jun 24th, 2002 at 06:50:57 PM PST

	Your post didn't make sense to me either, and I have a grade 35 reading level. What are you trying to say? Nathan -- Li'l Sis: Yo, that's a real grey area. Even by my lax standards.

	Did I ever tell you about my IQ? (none / 0) (#14)
	by T Reginald Gibbons on Mon Jun 24th, 2002 at 07:58:19 PM PST

	It's 674. I have the mental age of Julius Caesar.

	nono (none / 0) (#15)
	by nathan on Mon Jun 24th, 2002 at 10:31:26 PM PST

	It means you're prematurely senile... Nathan -- Li'l Sis: Yo, that's a real grey area. Even by my lax standards.

	That's it, I've had it with you! (none / 0) (#17)
	by T Reginald Gibbons on Tue Jun 25th, 2002 at 12:19:08 AM PST

	You'll think twice next time, before you call the Emperor of France senile!

	Ave (none / 0) (#52)
	by Anonymous Reader on Wed Jun 26th, 2002 at 08:47:32 AM PST

	You're right. You're not senile. In fact, the idea of Julius Caesar Emperor of France is refreshing and juvenile. History is more fun with a little fantasy.

	Ah! (none / 0) (#69)
	by Anonymous Reader on Thu Jun 27th, 2002 at 02:57:23 AM PST

	So your invented pseudoname is actually Thierry Reginald Gibbons! Thanks for pseudonymously sharing that with us, Thierry!

	Confused. (none / 0) (#28)
	by hauntedattics on Tue Jun 25th, 2002 at 10:16:41 AM PST

	Like tkatchev and nathan, I have no idea what you were trying to say in your above post. But then, as the Queen of the Sheep, what do I know anyway?

	explanation (none / 0) (#48)
	by innominate on Wed Jun 26th, 2002 at 06:46:56 AM PST

	My comment was intended to say that on the majority of posts having to do with anything close to racism, tkatchev was pretty regular about telling everyone how racist they are.

	WRONG (none / 0) (#9)
	by KingAzzy on Mon Jun 24th, 2002 at 02:47:02 PM PST

	Filthy muslims who enjoy pastimes of killing each other or small animals will NEVER be qualified to call themselves "white" regardless of their skin complexion. To be white is a spirit, a state of mind. It is to be among the most evolved and enlightened in the world, if not indeed the universe.

	Now (none / 0) (#19)
	by Anonymous Reader on Tue Jun 25th, 2002 at 03:50:58 AM PST

	That is the comment of a Doctor in History.

	White Spirit (none / 0) (#53)
	by Anonymous Reader on Wed Jun 26th, 2002 at 08:51:57 AM PST

	Clean everything. Ethnically?

	Iran is not Afghanistan (none / 0) (#11)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Jun 24th, 2002 at 05:36:39 PM PST

	While there is certainly a lot of inter-breeding between people from Iran and people from Afghanistan, that does not mean that Afghani's are Aryan like Persians are.

	He also forgot (none / 0) (#37)
	by John Wainright on Wed Jun 26th, 2002 at 01:12:35 AM PST

	to mention Australian Aborigines, Pacific Islanders and many others that do not fall into Type. Failing also to acknowledge any mixture of the races confirms the fact that this poll is Racist and Offensive to any enlightened person.

	Enlightened??? (none / 0) (#45)
	by innominate on Wed Jun 26th, 2002 at 06:13:01 AM PST

	Oh, Mr. Wainright, I humbly bow to your obvious enlightenment. I mean, any enlightened person would be open enough to listen intelligently to another person's thoughts, without the need to superimpose their own thoughts, right? You surprise me, Mr. Wainright. I'll bet you've been reading Hubbard's abberant message. en�light�en ��Pronunciation Key��(n-ltn) tr.v. en�light�ened, en�light�en�ing, en�light�ens 1. To give spiritual or intellectual insight to: "Enlighten the people generally, and tyranny and oppression of body and mind will vanish like evil spirits at the dawn of day" (Thomas Jefferson). 2. To give information to; inform or instruct. How are you instructing again? I chose 5 races; sub races and mixtures where left out for terseness. I have no use for over-classification.

	About you (none / 0) (#50)
	by Icebox on Wed Jun 26th, 2002 at 07:43:46 AM PST

	You seem to be stuck in 'no one is listening to me' rut. You further compound things by ranting about how terrible everyone is because they aren't overly concerned with what is going on inside your head. Could you do us all a favor and stop whining? Adequacy is not a place that coddles. If you need be among the hypersensitive types who will spend most of their time trying to figure out what makes you tick, will accept whatever maligned thoughts you type out, and won't commit the terrible sin of ever telling you that you are ad idiot, go somewhere else. No one here is listening to you because you have posted nothing interesting. You have to earn this acceptance you are seeking, you don't get it merely because you found your way here.

	point taken (none / 0) (#56)
	by innominate on Wed Jun 26th, 2002 at 11:19:46 AM PST

	I see your point. I will endevour to keep a distance from my writing and not take things so personal. Apologies for whining. Any acceptances?

	Defective poll (none / 0) (#22)
	by Anonymous Reader on Tue Jun 25th, 2002 at 08:45:54 AM PST

	My friend Rita introduced me to her friend Stacy this weekend. Stacy was born in Korea but grew up in France. Apparently the French are racist against Chinese and any Asian may as well be Chinese. The concept of adopting a foreign child is apparently foreign to them. That seems weird to me seeing as how two friends of mine that have lived down the block from me all my life are Korean adopted and I never thought anything of it. Anyway, Rita is from Ghana and I believe spent the first fourteen years of her life there. And so we got on the subject of race, or rather, what is race. The thing is there really is no such thing as race. All humans are members of the same genus, and the same specie. That leaves it up to each culture to decide what race means, but each culture does so differently. Some go by facial features. Some go by ancestry. Some go by skin color. Some go by any combination of the above. But none of this really makes race mean anything. And even if it did, it's not the primary factor I use to go about judging anybody. When I see Rita the first thoughts in my head are not, "this is Rita. She is black. She is from West Africa." No, they are, "Hey, it's Rita. I am happy to see her. I wonder how she is doing." So, as you can see, not only is your poll vaguely defined, it is asking the Adequacy reader to judge people based on a very poor criterion. However, if I must answer, I would choose innominate as the most worthy of death and destruction (or whatever it was the poll said) for being such a ninny in the first place. Honestly, I can see why the editors deleted your story. -Fon2d2

	"Not judging people". (none / 0) (#29)
	by tkatchev on Tue Jun 25th, 2002 at 10:30:42 AM PST

	Not judging people by "race" (I prefer the word "ethnicity", by the way) is fine if you're talking about people you know well, but what about being able to judge strangers? Now, you may say that "you shouldn't judge people you don't know", but that is absolute nonsense. Fact is, to be able to function normally in a human society, you absolutely have to be able to judge foreign people and/or situations. -- Peace and much love...

	ethnicity = classification (none / 0) (#30)
	by innominate on Tue Jun 25th, 2002 at 11:15:10 AM PST

	I suppose that there must be a classification of sorts if the political system is to keep functioning. Actually, judging people you don't know is a characteristic of someone uncomfortable with themselves. What I felt was a pretty simple test of honesty has turned out to be a magnet for those who want to keep everyone weaker than them down. I know what you are doing. It's pretty plain to see. BUT, I grant you beingness to be who you are, and I understand that you don't want to learn to change your bigoted ways. I just can't stop trying to get you to look outside your own 3 foot world. Such as it is with most of the world; still asleep, believing this reality is solid and real.

	Uhm no. (none / 0) (#32)
	by tkatchev on Tue Jun 25th, 2002 at 02:04:15 PM PST

	Judging things (and people) you do not know is a characteristic of anybody with a functioning brain. Period. Don't try to argue with me, because by doing so you sign off about your own idiocy. -- Peace and much love...

	abstract thinking (none / 0) (#33)
	by nathan on Tue Jun 25th, 2002 at 04:05:53 PM PST

	Is both amazingly powerful and, sometimes, amazingly hazardous. Nathan -- Li'l Sis: Yo, that's a real grey area. Even by my lax standards.

	argue? pfft. (none / 0) (#44)
	by innominate on Wed Jun 26th, 2002 at 06:02:23 AM PST

	I thought that this site represented only intellectual people, open minded enough to listen, and accept another's persons point of view. The only obvious idiocy is your lack of outward vision, and your inability to digest anyone's output but your own. I imagine you get real pissed, in your 'functioning brain', when someone counter points you with some witty retort. By puffing up and telling me not to try to argue with you establishes your stance as a lackluster bully type, that when slapped in the face, backs down like a little girl with her panties showing. This argument has already begun. I am not trying; I am doing, comrade.

	Err, no. (none / 0) (#68)
	by Ernest Bludger on Thu Jun 27th, 2002 at 01:34:27 AM PST

	"I thought that this site represented only intellectual people, open minded enough to listen, and accept another's persons point of view" Well, while this may or may not be desirable, it clearly isn't the case. This site allows posting by any that have the skills and technology to post, including you. Your post might be removed or edited if that's what the editors want to do. If you've posted a comment, then you know this, since it is clearly spelt out when you do post.

	Hmph. (none / 0) (#34)
	by hauntedattics on Tue Jun 25th, 2002 at 07:58:12 PM PST

	Your "more enlightened than thou" attitude is getting quite boring. Your poll, far from being a "simple test of honesty," is in reality a fairly loaded proposition. And your diary entry and comments are just plain elitist. If you can't recognize that, you're free to take your Matrix-esque philosophy lite somewhere else.

	exactly right! (none / 0) (#41)
	by innominate on Wed Jun 26th, 2002 at 05:39:03 AM PST

	You hit the nail on the head. It is all elitist, that is my game sphere. I am glad that someone got the point enough to use the Matrix analogy. In all actuality, I believe that I am not any better than anyone on this planet; only that I have more tools available to create a better future. This experiment was not for nothing. Thank you.

	Revisit your thoughts (none / 0) (#35)
	by John Wainright on Wed Jun 26th, 2002 at 12:56:30 AM PST

	Consider your outlook on this subject 10 years from now when you have some actual life experience to judge things by.

	revisit? the past is gone. (none / 0) (#46)
	by innominate on Wed Jun 26th, 2002 at 06:23:54 AM PST

	First, I have lost consideration; it wastes time. Second, In 10 years, when I am in my 40's, it's unlikely that your wish for me to conform to something will have happened. I can never go back to the old me. I will continue to follow the trail of tears, edging my way to sanity through viewing and accepting my past. As I thoroughly view things unwanted, they will vanish. I recommend reading 'the Four Agreements'. It will take you away from this need to give advice. Unless you didn't know that advice is really for the giver...

	Oh yes, I agree entirely (none / 0) (#51)
	by Fon2d2 on Wed Jun 26th, 2002 at 08:41:56 AM PST

	Everybody judges everyone they meet. Period. I just said that race is a poor metric. Even the slightest interaction with a person provides a far better metric than race. And even if all I knew of someone was from a picture I'd still be more influenced by physique than race.

	Some notes... (none / 0) (#36)
	by John Wainright on Wed Jun 26th, 2002 at 01:07:05 AM PST

	Your need to point out that you have friends of many colors tags you as a racist. Your breakdown into 5 categories is a total affront to those Irish-Mexicans and Asian-Negroes. This in itself proves your narrow mindedness. There were many more lines to present poll choices. Prove to me that reincarnation is anymore valid that ascending to Heaven upon death. I would offer the theory that you partake of entirely too much Marijuana or other illicit drugs while in the company of your racist friends. How else could the cockamamie ideas that you put forth come about. Feel free to contact your local Church or Synagogue for advice on kicking your habit.

	OT: Reincarnation. (0.00 / 1) (#38)
	by tkatchev on Wed Jun 26th, 2002 at 02:14:20 AM PST

	Something that the current crop of pop-buddhists do not know -- originally, the whole point of Buddhism was to escape the infinite cycle of reincarnation. In Buddhism, reincarnation is a wholly bad and evil concept. -- Peace and much love...

	Tell me more (none / 0) (#39)
	by Anonymous Reader on Wed Jun 26th, 2002 at 03:00:50 AM PST

	I'd like some development on that topic. What is the base of your conclusion (bad and evil concept in Buddhism).

	you're right (none / 0) (#40)
	by nathan on Wed Jun 26th, 2002 at 03:48:54 AM PST

	Insofar as Buddhism even has the idea of evil at all. Nathan -- Li'l Sis: Yo, that's a real grey area. Even by my lax standards.

	damn good point! (none / 0) (#49)
	by innominate on Wed Jun 26th, 2002 at 06:53:10 AM PST

	I find, from my own reading, that Buddhism has ascended beyong dichotomy; a trait that most humans use as a comfortable frame of reference.

	I'm using the word "evil"... (0.00 / 1) (#54)
	by tkatchev on Wed Jun 26th, 2002 at 10:52:25 AM PST

	...as a value judgement, not as a philosophical category. -- Peace and much love...

	So? (none / 0) (#58)
	by Anonymous Reader on Wed Jun 26th, 2002 at 11:23:54 AM PST

	Since it is a value judgment, it doesn't need to have a base? What makes you think it is evil? Or why do you think it is evil?

	"Evil" as a value judgement. (0.00 / 1) (#62)
	by tkatchev on Wed Jun 26th, 2002 at 12:49:02 PM PST

	You can say, for example: "that fish has an evil smell". This doesn't mean that the odor of the fish is inspired by Satan, rather it means that the smell is causing in you a severe feeling of alienation and cognitive dissonance. It's all about feelings, not about facts. -- Peace and much love...

	Can't discuss that (none / 0) (#64)
	by Anonymous Reader on Wed Jun 26th, 2002 at 01:13:44 PM PST

	If it's just a feeling, and you don't like the concept of reincarnation the same way you don't like yellow, grey or carnations, because it is causing in you a severe feeling of alienation and cognitive dissonance.

	Sure you can. (none / 0) (#66)
	by gzt on Wed Jun 26th, 2002 at 02:18:10 PM PST

	Or, at least, the Buddhists can. That's their claim, and you may dispute it, but you can't wave your hands and drop a straw man and call it good.

	That would be a waste of time (none / 0) (#67)
	by Anonymous Reader on Wed Jun 26th, 2002 at 03:29:12 PM PST

	And you know it.

	OT3: Wall of Fire (none / 0) (#42)
	by innominate on Wed Jun 26th, 2002 at 05:41:04 AM PST

	If you know that much of Buddhism, the surely you know the ultimate goal cannot be met until we can all break the cycle.

	Shut up, boy. (-) (0.00 / 1) (#55)
	by tkatchev on Wed Jun 26th, 2002 at 10:53:16 AM PST

	nt -- Peace and much love...

	is that all?? (none / 0) (#57)
	by innominate on Wed Jun 26th, 2002 at 11:22:15 AM PST

	I was hoping for more commentary from you. I was enjoying the banter, after all. I am past being a boy, but I am interested in what makes you lash out at me like that...

	You're annoying. (0.00 / 1) (#61)
	by tkatchev on Wed Jun 26th, 2002 at 12:45:58 PM PST

	The same way that pre-pubescent kids are annoying when they are growing up. -- Peace and much love...

	I see, Mr. Wainright. I think this... (none / 0) (#43)
	by innominate on Wed Jun 26th, 2002 at 05:55:07 AM PST

	rac�ism - n. 1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others. 2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race. Well let's see. I don't think that race has any bearing on ability, therefore I don't put much stock in any one race being superior. If I have friends of many races, then by that definition, I am not racist. Maybe Mr. Wainright has a differnt dikshunary. If someone delights in showing others how they are doing a particular thing, in a make wrong sense, then isn't it painfully obvious that they have to have the experience on that subject and at least some knowledge of it to point it out? Honestly, your attacks are obvious to me, but to others it is probably written off as humor.

	You'd like to think so, wouldn't you? (none / 0) (#59)
	by derek3000 on Wed Jun 26th, 2002 at 11:32:34 AM PST

	If I have friends of many races, then by that definition, I am not racist. Maybe Mr. Wainright has a differnt dikshunary. Your oversimplification of the situation betrays your ignorance. You can be a subversive racist and have a "diverse" group of friends. It happens all the time. Oh, and by the way--it's spelled "dictionary". ---------------- "Feel me when I bring it!" --Gay Jamie

	not thinking; knowing. (none / 0) (#60)
	by innominate on Wed Jun 26th, 2002 at 11:46:28 AM PST

	I don't mind being ignorant, but at least I know I am not ignorant by choice. Subversive? I am not into revolution, unless it is against oppression. I wonder, do you know that you don't know?

	Ah yes, liberalism. (0.00 / 1) (#63)
	by tkatchev on Wed Jun 26th, 2002 at 12:52:44 PM PST

	"Oppress the oppressors", indeed. It's been done before, you know. -- Peace and much love...

	Dude... (none / 0) (#65)
	by gohomeandshoveit on Wed Jun 26th, 2002 at 02:13:00 PM PST

	If you can't imagine anything other than reincarnation after death, then you need a better imagination. You can buy one at your locat thrift store. Oh, and while you're there, pick up an interracial porno flick. They're great. ----If ignorance is bliss, then knock the smile off my face.

	What is the worst? (none / 0) (#70)
	by Pseudo on Fri Jun 28th, 2002 at 02:32:51 PM PST

	raceism, classism, or 31337ism (which seems to run rampped around here).

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