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How to amuse myself
Search for porn despite corporate filter 10%
Learn PEARL 0%
Submit adequacy stories 10%
Troll /. 21%
Troll GIZ 5%
Revamp homepage 5%
Google for attractive high school classmate 42%
clean up hard drive 5%
other, please post 0%

Votes: 19

 How shall I amuse myself today?

 Author:  Topic:  Posted:
Nov 21, 2001
 Comments:
Bored at work, and my favorite weblogs are down.
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I need better sources of caffeine
It's hard, I'm stuck at work, bored, waiting to enjoy my two days off.

But k5 is down, plastic is down, where can I get my fix of libertarian whinging?

On the plus side, one of my /. accounts has mod points, so post a link and I will endow your post suitably.

Perhaps I will scrounge up a laptop running Win95 and play Capture the Flag (not the first person shooter type, the actual DOS game).


Wky k5 is down (none / 0) (#1)
by typical geek on Wed Nov 21st, 2001 at 10:04:30 AM PST
Blame Vlad


gcc is to software freedom as guns are to personal freedom.

Hrm... (5.00 / 1) (#2)
by Electric Angst on Wed Nov 21st, 2001 at 10:07:13 AM PST
<p>I wonder if that's really the case. I might have to hop on IRC and find out...</p><p>If it is, though, I can understand Rusty being pissed.</p>


--
In the dark times, will there still be singing?
Yes, there will be singing. There will be singing about the dark times. -- Bertolt Brecht

Are you accusing the good trolls of GiZ (none / 0) (#3)
by typical geek on Wed Nov 21st, 2001 at 10:11:16 AM PST
of lying?


gcc is to software freedom as guns are to personal freedom.

 
So did you find anything out? (5.00 / 1) (#4)
by theboz on Wed Nov 21st, 2001 at 11:10:09 AM PST
I don't go on slashnet IRC servers anymore, so I am curious if you have any information on it. If so, please share it.

Something that could prove very unfortunately is if the GiZ people decide to fuck up adequacy next.
[Reply]

The info... (5.00 / 2) (#5)
by Electric Angst on Wed Nov 21st, 2001 at 11:22:09 AM PST
According to Hurstdog, it's a router problem. The site itself is just fine.

Something potentially got hacked (we're not sure), but it certainly wasn't the K5 box. BC has a defacement screenshot that may or may not be true. It's right here.


--
In the dark times, will there still be singing?
Yes, there will be singing. There will be singing about the dark times. -- Bertolt Brecht

Thanks (5.00 / 1) (#6)
by theboz on Wed Nov 21st, 2001 at 11:39:57 AM PST
I think the screen shot is a fake. Even though there's not really a way to tell for sure, I assume that he had just opened that browser window recently because it is the last program on his taskbar. Also, the time that appears on the clock would corespond to the time being when you were in there asking, per the text in the IRC window. I know that K5 has been down basically all day today, so I believe that he would have had all of those programs open with the K5 window just sitting there since yesterday. While it's completely possible, it doesn't seem to be very likely.

Anyways, I trust hurstdog to be telling the truth though, so thanks for the information.
[Reply]

It is a fake. (5.00 / 2) (#7)
by kwsNI on Wed Nov 21st, 2001 at 11:58:04 AM PST
Look in the bottom right corner of the IE window. The page was loaded from My Computer, not the Internet. That means he loaded it off his system and then just typed http://www.kuro5hin.org in the address bar.

kwsNI

 
Yeah, routers. (none / 0) (#9)
by Anonymous Reader on Wed Nov 21st, 2001 at 01:18:46 PM PST
Ironic, isn't it. Kuro5hin was the only site I could get to all yesterday because of big router problems in the UK which took down every ADSL line in the south, and today, K5's down with router trouble.

BTW, I did a tracert, and it's failing before it gets to K5's box, but at a similar IP. Difficult to check, isn't it.


 
This is getting silly (5.00 / 2) (#10)
by Merekat on Thu Nov 22nd, 2001 at 01:25:39 AM PST
It's been down over 24 hours now, I think. Haven't these guys heard of Service Level Agreements or 4 hour turnaround on equipment? If you can get that type of service in outdated, decadent Europe, surely the heart of the digital world can manage it?

How's a girl supposed to organise her social life effectively under these circumstances!


You could use email (5.00 / 1) (#11)
by nobbystyles on Thu Nov 22nd, 2001 at 04:03:50 AM PST
I can't remember your spam address but I have an email list of all the London K5abal members which I could give to you if you want....


 
Emulators (5.00 / 1) (#8)
by First Incision on Wed Nov 21st, 2001 at 12:36:25 PM PST
Download some emulators, and some fun games. Classic Gaming is a good start if you need a link.
_
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Do you suffer from late-night hacking? Ask your doctor about Protonix.

Incitement to copyright violation (none / 0) (#15)
by moriveth on Thu Nov 22nd, 2001 at 11:38:25 PM PST
I believe that First Incision's above post is irresponsible and short-sighted. Software piracy--and, under the DMCA, emulators--are against the law.

We all know why piracy is wrong. Piracy deprives developers of the fruits of their hard-earned labor, and in the long term reduces the range of products available to us in the future.

When you download an emulator or pirated game, you're violating the law. Many justify their piracy by contending that, because old software has been replaced in the free market by newer software, this somehow means they have a right to download the old games for free. That argument is a gross distortion of reality, of course. If you are too cheap to buy commercially available software, you can get any game you want on EBay. But even if the games really were impossible to acquire legally, it wouldn't make piracy right. The law doesn't exist to be followed only when convenient.

Back in the days before Napster was shut down, a much-linked-to image declared, "When you download MP3s, you're downloading COMMUNISM!" Like they say, it's funny because it's true. Copyright law is a foundation of our captalist democracy, and without it, our civilization would crumble into collectivist rubble.


Brilliant argument. (5.00 / 1) (#17)
by tkatchev on Fri Nov 23rd, 2001 at 12:15:19 AM PST
Being Jewish in Nazi Germany was a crime. If you were a Jew in Nazi Germany, you were supporting Communism! The law is the law, and just because it is inconvinient doesn't mean you don't have to follow it.

Brilliant thinking, my man. I applaud you.


--
Peace and much love...




 
Hmm (none / 0) (#12)
by Anonymous Reader on Thu Nov 22nd, 2001 at 06:59:27 AM PST
Maybe we could make this our hangout whenever K5 goes down. Someone just has to post a diary like "This diary for K5 users while K5 is down", and then we could all just hang out there until the site comes back up again.


Adequacy regulars (none / 0) (#13)
by nobbystyles on Thu Nov 22nd, 2001 at 07:12:32 AM PST
Get very pissed off when people use their site as a back up K5. Although in terms of page views for the forth coming IPO, it's good news for their business plan...


Well, (none / 0) (#14)
by Anonymous Reader on Thu Nov 22nd, 2001 at 11:20:46 AM PST
They don't have to read it.


 
Good idea! (none / 0) (#16)
by Anonymous Reader on Fri Nov 23rd, 2001 at 12:11:46 AM PST
Someone just has to post a diary like "This diary for K5 users while K5 is down", and then we could all just hang out there...

Just remember to make the floor real sticky so they all get trapped there and starve to death.


weak (none / 0) (#18)
by Anonymous Reader on Fri Nov 23rd, 2001 at 06:34:50 AM PST
Fortunately, contrary to what you and your friend John Katz might believe, the real world and weblogs are not very similar at all. You should try to keep this in mind before attempting to draw parallels between the two.


Listen, you little squirt. (none / 0) (#19)
by RobotSlave on Fri Nov 23rd, 2001 at 11:53:53 AM PST
At adequacy, it is currently fashionable to invoke dirty gnu hippies like Eric Raymond when fabricating insults based in comparison (or, perhaps, noteworthy communists, heretics, and other personalities familiar to fans of the esoteric corner of academia known as "history").

I realise that you are probably a refugee from gibbering-gibbons.org, and thus accustomed to using the staff of slashdot.org as your Great Satan, but such evocations amount to a shibboleth here, as we are a sporting bunch, and there is no sport in such easy prey.

When in Rome, lad. When in Rome.


© 2002, RobotSlave. You may not reproduce this material, in whole or in part, without written permission of the owner.

So (none / 0) (#20)
by Anonymous Reader on Sat Nov 24th, 2001 at 12:33:44 AM PST
You're saying the original comment was worthy of a better reply? He's lucky he got even that much effort in return!


 

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