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Votes: 16

Wow.

Author:

suick

Topic:

Diaries

Posted:

Aug 02, 2001

Comments:

They really came out of the woodwork for the D&D article. I did my best to provide an opinion agreeing with the article, but I really had to stretch. And with it all over, I can only say that I just feel dirty.

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Hey Admins

Oh wait--no I don't. For a moment there I forgot that D&D players are complete losers.

	dear mr. suick (5.00 / 1) (#1)
	by osm on Fri Aug 3rd, 2001 at 02:10:44 AM PST

	please provide evidence that all d&d players are losers. oh wait: YOU'RE RIGHT!!

	If that wasn't proof enough... (5.00 / 1) (#2)
	by suick on Fri Aug 3rd, 2001 at 06:23:50 AM PST

	If Ghoti's message wasn't proof enough, try a search for "dungeons dragons losers." Hmm, about 1170 results. Now I'll try a search for "dungeons dragons winners". What? Why aren't there any results? ...Oh yeah, it's because all D&D players are losers. I hope everyone's satisfied. c'mon, lower.

	Do another search (none / 0) (#3)
	by Anonymous Reader on Fri Aug 3rd, 2001 at 07:38:54 AM PST

	I did one for "non D&D players losers" and got plenty of hits, so you suck if you play and you still suck if you don't.

	Beyond the scope (5.00 / 1) (#4)
	by suick on Fri Aug 3rd, 2001 at 07:52:12 AM PST

	I wasn't aware I was trying to prove that other people weren't losers--in fact I'd be the first to admit that the world is full of non-D&D playing losers. However, to make the claim that all non D&D players are losers as well is uninformed. Look at your "plenty of hits." Only 166? Compared to the 1170 D&D loser hits? Also, I did a search for "non-D&D winners" and recieved ~860 hits, versus my "D&D winner" search which returned 0. Now if you take the ratio of hits as evidence, you see that while only 16% of non-players are losers (166/1026), 100% of actual D&D players are (1170/1170). So clearly, the odds of you being a loser are much lower if you avoid the game. c'mon, lower.

	Small problem with your math (none / 0) (#5)
	by Anonymous Reader on Fri Aug 3rd, 2001 at 08:04:33 AM PST

	You can't divide the number of D&D loser hits by itself. You need to compare it to the entire population of people who know of the existence of D&D, which I'd say is fairly large. Of course, you'd do the same with the non D&D loser hits. Now we're dealing with percentages so small, that it's not even worth quibbling over anymore. Ah, forget it. Let's just say that lots of people in this world suck and be done with it.

	My math (5.00 / 1) (#6)
	by suick on Fri Aug 3rd, 2001 at 08:09:29 AM PST

	(# loser hits)/(# winner hits + # loser hits) Naturally these aren't exact tallies, but you can clearly see that more documentation is devoted to D&D losers than non-D&D losers. Therefore, my math still stands. c'mon, lower.

	By using your hit data, you're assuming (5.00 / 1) (#7)
	by Anonymous Reader on Fri Aug 3rd, 2001 at 08:44:21 AM PST

	that only 1170+166 people on the whole planet know of D&D. I'd say that's a bit conservative :) more documentation is devoted to D&D losers than non-D&D losers I think someone should find out if people who create webpages devoted to calling D&D players losers are losers themselves. After all, why spend so much free time on the subject of losers? Takes one to know one :)

	Way to state the obvious (none / 0) (#18)
	by suick on Fri Aug 3rd, 2001 at 03:37:39 PM PST

	c'mon, lower.

	You're welcome (none / 0) (#19)
	by Anonymous Reader on Fri Aug 3rd, 2001 at 03:42:11 PM PST

	People like you need the obvious pointed out for them every now and again. Cheers

	Thanks for the help (none / 0) (#21)
	by suick on Fri Aug 3rd, 2001 at 04:34:10 PM PST

	could you explain to me about this? only 1170+166 people on the whole planet know of D&D. I'd say that's a bit conservative I'm not sure I follow your logic. Thanks in advance! c'mon, lower.

	Hold on (none / 0) (#23)
	by Anonymous Reader on Fri Aug 3rd, 2001 at 08:33:51 PM PST

	Read the title of that post. You're trying to gauge what percentage of D&D players are losers by the number of people (1170...) who bothered to create a webpage saying that D&D players are losers. I'm saying that in order to be a bit more fair to the playing non-losers, you need to gauge the number of losers over the number of people that know the game exists. That was a mouthful. I'm going to bed :)

	No no no no no! (5.00 / 1) (#24)
	by suick on Sat Aug 4th, 2001 at 01:03:26 AM PST

	When a "search engine" finds a new "web page" on the "internet," it looks over the "web pages" it found and sees that it's about "Dungeons" and "Dragons," and then it knows to put the "web page" with the "LU53R5!" So essentially what you're getting is a master index of "internet" "web pages" of "D&D" "LU53R5!" At least, that's the only logical explanation I can come up with for the "search engines" to work (how else could something like google index "web pages" so smartly?). So as you can see, those 1170 "web pages" are of actual D&D "LU53R5!" So, learn to use the freaking "internet" before you make stupid posts talking about "the number of people that know the game exists" and "gauge the number of." BTW if you want to contact me I'm on hotmail my name is sicksucks@hotmail.com and my password is jeremiah. c'mon, lower.

	sniff sniff no exceptions? (none / 0) (#13)
	by opalhawk on Fri Aug 3rd, 2001 at 02:08:13 PM PST

	Are you saying I am a looser. pout You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be misquoted, then used against you.

	NO, (5.00 / 2) (#14)
	by CaptainZornchugger on Fri Aug 3rd, 2001 at 02:19:01 PM PST

	He said you were a loser. Not looser, loser. One 'O'. 'Looser' means 'not as tight as' (don't click there) sorry, pet peeve. HTH

	gur. (none / 0) (#20)
	by opalhawk on Fri Aug 3rd, 2001 at 03:50:53 PM PST

	Typing too fast is a curse some days. Thanks for catching that. You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be misquoted, then used against you.

	no. (5.00 / 1) (#15)
	by osm on Fri Aug 3rd, 2001 at 02:53:44 PM PST

	i'm saying spaghetti is a loser.

	That's fine, then. (3.00 / 2) (#16)
	by SpaceGhoti on Fri Aug 3rd, 2001 at 03:00:08 PM PST

	You can call me whatever you want. Just leave my little sister alone, you mean bully! A troll's true colors.

	aren't you (3.00 / 2) (#22)
	by osm on Fri Aug 3rd, 2001 at 04:36:43 PM PST

	supposed to be out molesting marsupials or something?

	my favourite ever kuro5hin comment (5.00 / 2) (#8)
	by jsm on Fri Aug 3rd, 2001 at 09:32:17 AM PST

	... which I used as my .sig for a while, was by someone whose name I forgot who, in reference to some flame or another, said: "That's like telling a Dungeons & Dragons player he's a loser because his dungeons are so bad" ... the worst tempered and least consistent of the adequacy.org editors ... now also Legal department and general counsel, adequacy.org

	That's a good one (5.00 / 1) (#9)
	by donkpunch on Fri Aug 3rd, 2001 at 09:51:39 AM PST

	Some other favorites: From the always-entertaining seanbaby.com: That's like being the toughest member of the New Kids on The Block Fan Club. And, of course, my mom's favorite: When that lawnmower cuts your feet off, don't come running to me.

	Actually, (5.00 / 1) (#10)
	by CaptainZornchugger on Fri Aug 3rd, 2001 at 10:16:19 AM PST

	That was an anonymous comment on Geekizoid, not K5. They were flaming Electric Angst in one of his stories, which is probably why you read it.

	Found it (5.00 / 1) (#12)
	by Anonymous Reader on Fri Aug 3rd, 2001 at 12:07:44 PM PST

	Right here I need to stop posting anonymously.

	definition (none / 0) (#11)
	by alprazolam on Fri Aug 3rd, 2001 at 11:43:46 AM PST

	i think we ought to define loser first thing. now if loser means "somebody who role plays other than fucking" yea all d&d people are losers. personally i think we should use metrics to come up with a certain cutoff, below which you are a loser. it would definately be based on certain aspects of sex life and annual income.

	I think some testing is in order (5.00 / 1) (#17)
	by suick on Fri Aug 3rd, 2001 at 03:35:50 PM PST

	Ok, look at the following two losers from my dorm last year. As you close each page, ask yourself what you saw in the linked picture. Pic 1 Pic 2 If it took you less than 5 seconds to start laughing, chances are good you're not a loser. If you cracked a smile without laughing, you probably see people like that a lot, so you're guilt by association. However, if the circumstances of your seeing them is beyond your control (ie. a work or school environment), you are probably not a loser. If you looked at them and saw a friend, you are most definately a loser. If you looked at them and saw a potential friend, you are hardcore about your loserdom. What's more, you have been ostracized from human society to the point where you are completely unable to distinguish between "friends" and "losers." Basically, you are a loser's loser; a D&D player. And yes, there's even one final layer. If you fit the previous description yet took offense at being called a "D&D player" (when everyone knows you're a "D&D Gr4ndm4st3r W1z4rd +30"), it's time to start using your D&D books for something useful. Like building a makeshift gallows. c'mon, lower.

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