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Votes: 5

I am the secular humanist media conspiracy!

Author:

Hagbard Celine

Topic:

Diaries

Posted:

Nov 15, 2001

Comments:

Yes. It was all me. I've been around a while and I'm obviously undermining all you hold dear while simultaneously celebrating my sin.

More diaries by Hagbard Celine

	Back to School...
	I'm so inadequate.

You see, it's quite simple. I support sexual freedom and think that women are people too. Actually, I've been living in sin with my girlfriend for over four years. I think your kids should play violent video games thereby making it easy to kill those who disagree with them. I support drug legalization and laws based on common sense and compmassion. I reject the idea that some people are more entitled to wealth than others simply because they're white and educated. The WTO and IMF are evil. So-called Christians who believe they must make everyone believe just as they believe are evil. Finally, to make it even worse, I work for the church.

	Hello! (none / 0) (#1)
	by Anonymous Reader on Thu Nov 15th, 2001 at 10:08:18 AM PST

	We are currently looking for applicants for an open Editorial Content Screener. If your current job with the church is not to your liking, please send your resume to me at the soonest possible opportunity. -- Ted Turner

	Hi there! (none / 0) (#2)
	by nx01 on Thu Nov 15th, 2001 at 10:21:36 AM PST

	Welcome, Mr. Secular Humanist Media Conspiracy! Always nice to get new slashdotters on here. Don't worry, you'll grow up -- given time and good preaching. They all do, just as soon as they grow up and get money. Have a nice day! "Every time I look at the X window system, it's so fucking stupid; and part of me feels responsible for the worst parts of it." -- James Gosling

	Nice to meet you, dear (5.00 / 1) (#3)
	by hauntedattics on Thu Nov 15th, 2001 at 10:35:38 AM PST

	Now sit down and don't brag so much. It's bad for your digestion. Chocolate chip cookie? They're fresh out of the oven.

	You really are a nut, aren't you? (none / 0) (#4)
	by Mendax Veritas on Thu Nov 15th, 2001 at 11:19:39 AM PST

	.

	Maybe (1.00 / 1) (#5)
	by Hagbard Celine on Thu Nov 15th, 2001 at 12:27:09 PM PST

	Or maybe I'm just playing the part. I just thought I would make it easier for the xians here to dismiss my opinions entirely by presenting myself as bluntly as possible. Maybe I could go more in depth...

	My child, (none / 0) (#6)
	by tkatchev on Thu Nov 15th, 2001 at 12:36:18 PM PST

	how old are you? -- Peace and much love...

	Ageism? (none / 0) (#7)
	by Hagbard Celine on Thu Nov 15th, 2001 at 12:44:24 PM PST

	Not that it's relevant, but I'm 23. (Skidoo)

	Americans... (none / 0) (#8)
	by tkatchev on Thu Nov 15th, 2001 at 12:57:13 PM PST

	...must live very sheltered lives. Typically, kids grow out of aggressive atheism by the time they turn 16-17. -- Peace and much love...

	Aggressive? (1.00 / 1) (#9)
	by Hagbard Celine on Thu Nov 15th, 2001 at 01:07:23 PM PST

	I guess that must be a relative term, because I'm no longer aggressive in my view. Maybe you don't get the joke. Poking fun of a label, of a box that someone(unnamed) puts me and everyone in. It's the same kind of idea as making generalizations about any group. Ya ne durak. Za vashe zdrovye.

	I mean... (none / 0) (#12)
	by tkatchev on Thu Nov 15th, 2001 at 10:12:16 PM PST

	I mean "a person who is an aggressive atheist", not "an aggressive person who is an atheist". -- Peace and much love...

	Thank you for clearing that up (none / 0) (#15)
	by Hagbard Celine on Fri Nov 16th, 2001 at 10:20:16 AM PST

	I hope this doesn't turn into a hardcore discussion of semantics, but that's exactly what I meant. I am a person who is not an "aggressive atheist". As I stated before, I got over that in junior high and high school. And you can say it over and over again but I won't grow out of it. I'm an adult and it's an adult decision. PFFFFTTT

	Really? (none / 0) (#10)
	by CaptainZornchugger on Thu Nov 15th, 2001 at 01:33:16 PM PST

	Most Americans I know don't grow out of aggresive atheism until their junior year in college (about 20 or 21). The Russian immigrants I've known seemed slightly ahead, but not so young as 16-17. I find that figure impressive.

	grow out of it? (5.00 / 1) (#11)
	by alprazolam on Thu Nov 15th, 2001 at 01:53:14 PM PST

	i've never seen anybody grow out of aggressive atheism. i have seen some people fake it in order to sleep with christian girls, though.

	Oh come on. (none / 0) (#14)
	by CaptainZornchugger on Fri Nov 16th, 2001 at 09:19:43 AM PST

	Most atheists go through this phase where they're listening to Trent Reznor and reading Nietzsche, and have this whole attitude of "God doesn't exist and I'm really fucking pissed about it." Surely you've known people to get over that? They typically resolve into a more passive style of atheism, where they don't believe in God and don't really care, although some become agnostic, and some get religious again. For most of them, it's not until midway through college that they really get over it (although everyone calms down alot immediately after leaving high school). Of course, the sleeping with Christians thing works too.

	wow (none / 0) (#17)
	by alprazolam on Fri Nov 16th, 2001 at 03:55:27 PM PST

	I guess this is shocking to you, but no I haven't known people like that. Where I 'grew-up', there weren't really atheists, and there weren't really people that listened to Trent Reznor, except for the really smelly people (who I obviously avoided). Not that I don't like some of his music, but it was never a big cultural phenomenon in my high school. Most of the atheists I know are a bit like me, except for a little bit less offensive with it. In fact they were never very aggressive about it, but very sure of it I guess.

	Well, (none / 0) (#13)
	by tkatchev on Thu Nov 15th, 2001 at 10:14:30 PM PST

	Most kids finish high-school at 16-17 here. I'm guessing that the first year after high-school is roughly the time you start to take responsibility for your actions. -- Peace and much love...

	You're making all of this up... (none / 0) (#18)
	by elenchos on Fri Nov 16th, 2001 at 07:16:25 PM PST

	...aren't you? Or do you have any actual facts that bear some relation to how normal people's religious beliefs change with age? Or at least something about Russian people? And no, what the voice of God says inside your head does not count as facts. I do, I do, I do --Bikini Kill

	sic transit, etc (none / 0) (#19)
	by nathan on Fri Nov 16th, 2001 at 07:39:37 PM PST

	And no, what the voice of God says inside your head does not count as facts. So much for Bishop Berkeley. Nathan -- Li'l Sis: Yo, that's a real grey area. Even by my lax standards.

	Read it again. (none / 0) (#20)
	by tkatchev on Sat Nov 17th, 2001 at 02:13:22 AM PST

	I'm not talking about changing religious beliefs, I'm talking about losing the offensive adolescent attitude that God and society owes you something. There are some people who simply don't believe in God; that's fine. But there is another type of atheist who feels he has a calling to shove his beliefs in everyone's face as offensively as possible. -- Peace and much love...

	Probably (none / 0) (#21)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sat Nov 17th, 2001 at 06:27:10 PM PST

	Because they have moved out of their parents place so are no force to go to church anymore

	FYI, (none / 0) (#16)
	by nathan on Fri Nov 16th, 2001 at 03:37:33 PM PST

	I'm Canadian, and I started to take religion seriously again when I was about 20 years old. It helped that I have a great mentor who is a religious man. To be fair, so many North American "Christians" are so obnoxious, heretical, and vocal that they turn many away from spirituality. Nathan -- Li'l Sis: Yo, that's a real grey area. Even by my lax standards.

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