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Hmmm... (none / 0) (#1)
by Anonymous Reader on Wed Jul 17th, 2002 at 08:24:55 PM PST
A bit of an oxymoron, isn't it? Sort of like "military intelligence."

The Big Lie (none / 0) (#2)
by First Incision on Wed Jul 17th, 2002 at 09:07:49 PM PST
A true oxymoron would be something like "freezer burn."

Just because you America-hating draft-dodging hippie types keep repeatedly saying "military intelligence" is an oxymoron, it doesn't make it so. Maybe you should take a moment to consider all intelligence that goes into making the US Army the most powerful army in the world.
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oxymoron. (none / 0) (#3)
by Anonymous Reader on Wed Jul 17th, 2002 at 09:25:55 PM PST
How about "Microsoft Works"? Or "Outlook Express"? What about "Holy War"?

It's more of a contradiction in terms, but how about the placement of "adequacy.org" and "news" anywhere in the same sentance?

 
Military Intelligence (none / 0) (#4)
by Anonymous Reader on Wed Jul 17th, 2002 at 09:28:42 PM PST
And about all the stupid that makes a military man's life so much more of a headache than it really has to be, which is what the adage refers to.
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Yay Captain America! (5.00 / 1) (#5)
by Anonymous Reader on Thu Jul 18th, 2002 at 06:24:51 AM PST
First off, where in the hell did I say anything about the US Army in my post? Other countries out there do have military forces. You, being an American citizen, should know- your boys sure do like bombing the hell out of them, allies or not.

But I agree- the US Army is the most powerful army in the world. But power doesn't necessarily go hand in hand with intelligence.

Think about this for a moment. The US Army is the most powerful army in the world because it has better funding, better equipment, and fields a much larger force in peacetime than any other nation in the world. The US Army is not superior because they field better strategians and tacticians, nor because the troops are inherently smarter or better trained than other nations; no, only numbers and logistics favor the Americans. Intelligence does not play a role here.

You're so right. (none / 0) (#6)
by hauntedattics on Thu Jul 18th, 2002 at 09:54:58 AM PST
I've met many current and ex-members of the American military, and they were all dumb as the proverbial box of rocks. Not an intelligent one in the bunch.

Here's a hint for you: "Well-funded" does not necessarily mean "stupid" or "lucky". And I believe that the PRC's army is bigger than the U.S.'s.



Why are you people... (5.00 / 1) (#7)
by Anonymous Reader on Thu Jul 18th, 2002 at 02:38:38 PM PST
Still hung up on America? I used the term "military intelligence" as a blanket term for any military of any country.

I have to concur one point, though. I've met many an American soldier through my travels and I must agree that they are all indeed as dumb as the "proverbial box of rocks."

And yes, well-funded does not necessarily mean stupid or lucky. But neither does it mean "intelligence." I stand by my point- you do not need intelligence to maintain the "most powerful army in the world" as long as you have some jackass willing to throw more money at it.

Thank you for pointing out the PRC bit. I was incorrect on that point. China does actually field more men than the US. However, the US (who is constantly prepared to fight a war on three separate fronts) still puts out a pretty hefty number of troops, and they are all much better equipped than any Chinese soldier. Not to mention the insane amount of hardware that the US military fields, and the hardware that they keep tucked away in their collective attics for future use.

I still say "military intelligence" = oxymoron.

Frenchie (none / 0) (#8)
by Right Hand Man on Fri Jul 19th, 2002 at 08:12:50 AM PST
You appear to be a Frenchman. The next time the Germans are shelling your cities into crumbs be sure that you don't involve the US Military in any way. It should put your mind at ease that you are well advanced of those Germans with regard to intelligence, and that you won't have to sully you soil with hoardes of American fighting men.

By the way, the term you seek is 'US Military' not 'US Army'. The Army is a branch of the military rather than the entire thing. A Marine would be incensed over this, being a sailor I am merely amused by your ignorance.

Regardless, there is no doubt that there are US soldiers out there who possess below average intelligence. This only serves to reinforce the brilliance of the military machine that the United States has devised. It can take the dimmest bulbs and train them to be the world's best fighting men, able to carry out enormously complex operations, or at least some small portion thereof, in the most efficient, accurate, and effective manner the world has ever seen. On the other hand, there are also very intelligent members of our military (not to be self aggrandizing, but Special Forces is full of them).

There are many other armies across the globe that use a similar scheme, although they are obviously inferior. Despite that, military thinking in general is most certainly intelligent, and it is your narrow field of view that causes you to feel otherwise.


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When? (none / 0) (#10)
by walwyn on Fri Jul 19th, 2002 at 02:17:40 PM PST
I don't recall that the Germans have done much shelling of French cities. Remind me when did that occur?


Well (none / 0) (#13)
by Right Hand Man on Mon Jul 22nd, 2002 at 07:47:50 AM PST
June 3, 1940 would be the most famous date. That is when the first serious bombing of Paris by Germany began during WWII. Also read up on the Dunkirk evacuation.

There is a famous photo of Adolph Hitler and one or another of his henchmen standing within a few hundred yards of your Eiffel Tower after his army took control of the city.

While the majority of the destruction in WWII came via Luftwaffe bombers, which can't rightly be called shelling, the Germans did use a considerable amount of artillery in sacking the city.

Also see The First Battle of the Marne, as well as the March Offensive, both during WWI.

These situations give rise to jokes such as "The streets of France are lined with trees because the German Army likes to march in the shade." and "Welcome to France, summer home of the German Army.", both of which I heard repeatedly during the short time I spent in France.


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"Keep your bible open and your powder dry."

The majority of the destruction... (none / 0) (#14)
by walwyn on Tue Jul 23rd, 2002 at 04:15:04 PM PST
...came about due to allied shelling and bombing.

Rouen lost 40-50% of it buildings due to American bombing. Le Harve suffered heavy damage, Saint-Nazaire was almost completely destroyed, and so it goes on, city after city, town after town.


 
Thanks. (none / 0) (#12)
by Anonymous Reader on Sat Jul 20th, 2002 at 12:27:11 AM PST
Just the kind of answer I was looking for. Neat, concise, and well-explained. I have no other response.

 
Apparently... (none / 0) (#9)
by hauntedattics on Fri Jul 19th, 2002 at 10:58:49 AM PST
I need to start using those damn' <sarcasm> tags. Subtlety doesn't pay.



Doesn't matter what you put in, (none / 0) (#11)
by because it isnt on Fri Jul 19th, 2002 at 03:48:50 PM PST
it's not like they read your comment before bashing out another 100 word missive. Just say 'yes' and nod your head now and again, that's all they're looking for in this 'discussion'.
adequacy.org -- because it isn't

 

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