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Votes: 15

Women and the Internet

Author:

gNinja

Topic:

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Posted:

May 25, 2002

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It is unfortunate that although mankind has evolved in so many ways, there still exists a segment of society who will not treat women with the respect they deserve. In particular, there is a class of men who continuously try to take advantage of teenage girls on the internet. It's time to put an end to the outrage.

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I propose new legislation that all women should use male pseudonyms until they reach age 18. This is the only way to protect our daughters from internet predators.

By that age the girls should be smart enough to protect themselves, whether that be through continuing to use male pseudonyms or through simply not going into the nastier chat-rooms.

The time to act is NOW! And the action to take is the one described above.

	OK (none / 0) (#1)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sat May 25th, 2002 at 12:44:31 AM PST

	so how do you propose to enforce this? You're pretty naive to think that having a masculine sounding nic will stop internet predators. I suppose they all prey on little girls. If a predator were to lure a child, who's fault would it be? Certainly it would be the predator's, but what about the parents? The parents who didn't monitor their child's chat sessions, or didn't tell them not to give out personal information, or tell them the difference between a good areas of the web and the bad. I suppose a masculine sounding nic will stop that.

	Reiterate (none / 0) (#2)
	by gNinja on Sat May 25th, 2002 at 02:05:31 AM PST

	so how do you propose to enforce this? Have FBI agents send a/n/s messages to anyone with a female "nic". If they find any girls under 18, then fine them. Simple but effective. You're pretty naive to think that having a masculine sounding nic will stop internet predators. I suppose they all prey on little girls. That's why they are called predators after all: they prey on the weak. I do not claim this would "stop internet predators," just that it would cut it down to more acceptable levels.

	what about girls who prey on men? (none / 0) (#3)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sat May 25th, 2002 at 03:11:03 AM PST

	Uh. (none / 0) (#6)
	by tkatchev on Sat May 25th, 2002 at 10:42:56 AM PST

	Okay. -- Peace and much love...

	There are girls who prey on MEN?! (none / 0) (#8)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sat May 25th, 2002 at 11:08:06 AM PST

	Well thats something you don't read everyday Indy^_^

	Acceptable levels? (5.00 / 1) (#4)
	by T Reginald Gibbons on Sat May 25th, 2002 at 03:36:16 AM PST

	That's an odd choice of words. What do you consider acceptable levels of child abuse to be? I personally consider acceptable levels to be exactly 0. That's why the only plausible solution to the problem of internet child abuse is the one we have been advocating for years: Licensing and identification for all net users. In the past ten years we have seen what comes of libertarian ideas regarding free access and anonymity. The net has become a haven for perverts of all kinds. The great experiment of "freedom" on the net been a complete failure. Now it is time to ask what we really want from the internet: freedom for thieves, perverts and sociopaths, or freedom for families?

	Of course, outside the Internet, (none / 0) (#5)
	by because it isnt on Sat May 25th, 2002 at 05:43:27 AM PST

	most child abuse occurs where the child and their family both know exactly who the abuser is. adequacy.org -- because it isn't

	I'm not sure I understand you (4.50 / 2) (#14)
	by T Reginald Gibbons on Sat May 25th, 2002 at 05:30:53 PM PST

	Are you saying the "free" internet is preferable because it allows warped degenerates to abuse their own children without their children even knowing that their molesters are their own loving parents? I am appalled. I don't even want to know what other vile and disturbed ideas you have regarding child abuse.

	So... (5.00 / 1) (#9)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sat May 25th, 2002 at 12:27:53 PM PST

	Stopping a crime by punishing a potential victim? "Mr. Smith, you drive an expensive car. Here's a hefty fine so it won't get stolen." Of course, there's the whole issue of jurisdiction. Finally, actually getting the fine. l337FBId00d: Yo all, a/n/s. littleSuzy123: 13/American/F. l337FBId00d: littleSuzy123, you're charged with violating Section n of the Online Child Protection Act. Please submit an address so we can send you a fine of $1,000.

	Hello? (none / 0) (#10)
	by tkatchev on Sat May 25th, 2002 at 01:21:34 PM PST

	In the coming future technocratic paradise, all online activity will be logged using top-secret IP Token technology in the NSA data banks. Since by that time we'll have reached complete communism and paper money will be abolished, the FBI will simply index the IP Token with your local bank where your electronic money is kept and deduct the appropriate sum from your account. Hope that makes it clear. Good night. -- Peace and much love...

	Oh dear (none / 0) (#12)
	by budlite on Sat May 25th, 2002 at 05:11:38 PM PST

	Yoshi's influence is spreading. It MUST be stopped. Unfortunately I have no ideas as to how.

	How about banning his IP token? n/t (5.00 / 1) (#16)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun May 26th, 2002 at 02:53:52 AM PST

	I'm not even going to go into this right now (n/t) (none / 0) (#18)
	by budlite on Sun May 26th, 2002 at 07:38:04 AM PST

	Sorry (none / 0) (#22)
	by Yoshi on Sun May 26th, 2002 at 10:31:28 AM PST

	My IP token repository is cloaked with the Microsoft Exchange 2002 Firewall. Only select individuals may extract that information and utilize it at their will, and I can assure you, you will not be one of them. Please, run along now. The world needs your help.

	Re: (none / 0) (#23)
	by tkatchev on Sun May 26th, 2002 at 10:42:10 AM PST

	Your number has now been forwarded to the NSA. Thank you and have a good night. -- Peace and much love...

	Yoshi didn't invent the IP Tokens joke. (none / 0) (#20)
	by because it isnt on Sun May 26th, 2002 at 08:07:44 AM PST

	I forget the login name, but I think it was the "hacking for jesus" guy who invented them. adequacy.org -- because it isn't

	I have no idea who invented it... (none / 0) (#21)
	by budlite on Sun May 26th, 2002 at 09:11:20 AM PST

	...but Yoshi was the one who overused it to the point it no longer humorous or worth responding to. Then, just as I thought it had died down, as I heaved a sigh of relief, one of the members of Adequacy who I considered that little more balanced just HAD to resurrect it.

	that would be (none / 0) (#30)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon May 27th, 2002 at 08:56:28 PM PST

	Government Communications Security Bureau.

	theoretical vs practical (none / 0) (#17)
	by gNinja on Sun May 26th, 2002 at 04:29:12 AM PST

	Stopping a crime by punishing a potential victim? Punishment? It's hardly a punishment to ask someone to change their "internet handle." It's the exact opposite of punishment, it's doing the person a favor. I'll be the first to admit that it's sad that it has to come to this. But unfortunately, we live in the real world that demands hard nosed, practical solutions to problems NOW. Kids never understand the harsh realities that adults have to deal with until it is too late. What you don't seem to realise is that real people are left to suffer while you are trying to think of a "perfect" solution.

	Why Do You Keep Doing This to Yourself (none / 0) (#24)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun May 26th, 2002 at 10:56:48 AM PST

	Posted By gNinja: If they find any girls under 18, then fine them So you don't think a fine is a punishment? What is it then? A favour? I got a $144 ticket for running a red light. The cop was doing me a real favour by writing that ticket. There is no such thing as a perfect solution. You've got to find something that works the best for a large number. To protect kids online, that means weeding out the the predators, and teaching kids safe chatting and surfing habits.

	You did have a favor granted. (none / 0) (#27)
	by John Wainright on Mon May 27th, 2002 at 12:03:05 AM PST

	The member of law enforcement that cited you for breaking the law had not only your best interests in mind, but those of your fellow community members. Imagine if you were not apprehended, perhaps you would have continued willy-nilly running stoplights until one day you go through one and hit someone in opposing traffic. The $144 reminder you received should serve to encourage you to be more cautious while exercising you privilege of operating an automobile.

	From an economic point of view (none / 0) (#29)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon May 27th, 2002 at 12:38:25 PM PST

	It would be far more interesting to have everybody, men and women, change their name to a female name, since men would be more reluctant about that solution. So there would be more fines.

	no way (none / 0) (#7)
	by PotatoError on Sat May 25th, 2002 at 11:03:17 AM PST

	You can't own the internet and hence, cannot control it. Your persumption that such a new legislation could be enforced amazes me. Indeed, the target group of the legislation are minors and can't be prosecuted. A far better idea is to arrest the male perverts dont you think? "The time to act is NOW! And the action to take is the one described above." That was funny <<JUMP! POGO POGO POGO BOUNCE! POGO POGO POGO>>

	Don't forget the french (none / 0) (#11)
	by John Milton on Sat May 25th, 2002 at 03:37:22 PM PST

	Any law that we pass will have to take into account the pansy-ass names the frogs give to their boys. -John Milton

	Unlike us USians :-) (none / 0) (#15)
	by dmg on Sat May 25th, 2002 at 07:51:00 PM PST

	Does the name Marion Morrison ring any bells ? time to give a Newtonian demonstration - of a bullet, its mass and its acceleration. -- MC Hawking

	Of course (none / 0) (#26)
	by John Milton on Sun May 26th, 2002 at 02:15:51 PM PST

	It's unfortunate that John Wayne's parents seem to have fallen under the influence of the french, but that's a natural cost of the freedom we enjoy as the worlds one truly Democratic government. The main point is that, once John managed to get away from his frog loving parents, he was able to take advantage of the American common law system to change his name. In socialist dictatorships, such as france, this would not have been possible due to government interference in naming. The french government controls the naming of it's citizens in order to break the the individuality of the masses. That's why they castrate their young with girlish names. The psychological effect of this nomen mutilation leaves them a slave of the state. -John Milton

	Comment? Quoi? Qu'est-ce? (none / 0) (#28)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon May 27th, 2002 at 12:34:31 PM PST

	I didn't know us froggies had such an influence in the US. Hey, we have succeeded in having so many American males wearing proudly that girl name of Marion, while no French man has ever used it.

	A somewhat naive approach to the problem (5.00 / 1) (#19)
	by Yossarian on Sun May 26th, 2002 at 07:38:11 AM PST

	Your solution may indeed protect our daughters from older male predators. But how will it protect our sons from homosexual (and indeed, female heterosexual) predators? The only possible way to protect all our children is to allow male homosexuals and unmarried female heterosexuals to use the Internet only under the strictest supervision.

	What if.. (none / 0) (#25)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun May 26th, 2002 at 01:51:35 PM PST

	What if these Male homosexuals and unmarried Heterosexuals are adults and living on there own and having homes? Your only possible way will be impossible :p Indy^_^

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