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This Has Gone Too Far

Author:

Yoshi

Topic:

Diaries

Posted:

Apr 02, 2002

Comments:

Recently, I stumbled upon an article which details the lengths that hackers can and will go to harm and endanger the lives of the people we hold dear. That's why I have proposed an ultimatum.

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	Sun's Ulterior Motives

The article in question is located here. It states, quite blatantly so, that hackers have the ability to blow up your computer by sending "electrical current" and "molecular structure" through the "central processing unit." Now, I'm no Bob Vila, but that sounds to me like a recipe for disaster.

Everything I have and hold dear is in jeopardy with hooligans and thugs controlling their siphoned portion of the Internet. Just imagine, sitting at your computer, browsing the web with your Internet Explorer, when a troll from Adequacy.org plants a link to a virus that will kill you. Yes, sir, this is a laughing matter no more.

That's why, effective immediately, I am issuing a war on hacking. I will work together with law enforcement to ensure that the hackers who perpetrate these acts with their illegal Lunix programs will spend the rest of their life behind bars. You see, when you endanger the lives of myself and my family, you're treading on thin ice. No more warnings will be given, if any signs of 'hackerisms' are demonstrated, I will see to it that appropriate recourse is taken.

This is war. I will see to it that the hackers lose the battle before I lose my life, sitting innocently behind my Pentium 4.

	This is the cost... (5.00 / 3) (#1)
	by The Mad Scientist on Tue Apr 2nd, 2002 at 07:16:11 PM PST

	...of the modern technology. Of letting the Market make decisions that are too important to let the managers and marketroids within a mile around them. If you are unable to convince the manufacturers to make decent - in this case non-explosive - hadware again, well, you have to live with the consequences. This you get for letting them get away with using cheap second-grade electrons. Address the problem at its true source. Write to your Congressman, demand safety laws for technology, demand mandatory quality requirements for elementary particles. Isn't it time for a book addressing the problem? Maybe "Unsafe at any clock speed"? Or, if you are so scared, why not stop using the computer anymore? What about giving up the electricity altogether? I heard rumors from the Underground that there is a version of this technology that allows blowing up anything from a TV to a lightbulb. Coward.

	True (5.00 / 1) (#5)
	by Yoshi on Tue Apr 2nd, 2002 at 08:34:54 PM PST

	I heard rumors from the Underground that there is a version of this technology that allows blowing up anything from a TV to a lightbulb. Alas, remote destruction has never been this easy. Never before have lunix hackers had the free access to simply kill anyone they wish with a few keystrokes in their "nslookup" programs. Modern technology's great, and I sincerely hope the Army has capitalized on this technology, but when it gets into the wrong hands, particularly immature teenage hackers, I get worried. Worse yet, my life is in danger.

	Yes i know ur bein facetious (1.00 / 1) (#9)
	by Narcissus on Tue Apr 2nd, 2002 at 09:46:57 PM PST

	but for a winders user who likes pickin on lunix users at least don't start blamin them for an MS program like nslookup, all i ask is provable statements -------------------------------- Ok, who picked the flower???

	wrong website (5.00 / 1) (#23)
	by Yoshi on Wed Apr 3rd, 2002 at 01:07:34 AM PST

	These guys can help.

	Despite... (none / 0) (#30)
	by The Mad Scientist on Wed Apr 3rd, 2002 at 04:34:00 AM PST

	...being on the opposite sides of the barricade (as I am a hacker and proud of it), we're on the same ship. My computer can blow up at me as well as yours; we are both facing the same risks. But the only ones who can protect us are paradoxically the hackers themselves; you can't expect any timely security solution from the Corporations, they don't care about the end user (well, not beyond the scope of their PR) but only about their profits. (The wonders of capitalism. spit) So befriend your local hacker, bribe him with coffee and respect, and hire him to secure your machine and your house. The ones who live by the sword for long enough usually know how to avoid dying by the sword.

	Heh (1.00 / 1) (#2)
	by DG on Tue Apr 2nd, 2002 at 07:59:28 PM PST

	I'm sorry but Yoshi you are one paranoid idiot, it's scary they let you use a pc. Do you think everything is out to get you? I seriously doubt its possible to do what you read.. if it was able to do anything it would melt more than it would explode, i bet that was from a a trash mag, tell me when you come up with a real artical from some where legit and i'll believe it � 2002, DG. You may not reproduce this material, in whole or in part, without written permission of the owner.

	No (5.00 / 2) (#4)
	by Yoshi on Tue Apr 2nd, 2002 at 08:30:12 PM PST

	Intriguing as the article was, I have done further research to prove the article correct. It turns out that as the email attachment or illegal hacker link infiltrates your browser, it is capable of using your processor's Normal/Natural Thermal Processing core (NNTP) for adjusting the overclock bus rate of your RAM. When you 'up' the FSB to 133 degrees fahrenhertz, the resonating frequency of the electrons in your Pentium (or "equivalent" asian processor like AMD) actually splits the dipoles within the atoms. This, in turn, causes a release of energy parallel to that of a small hand grenade, enough to kill anyone within range of the Core Processing Unit. As for the article itself, if you insult the source rather than the actual content, it just shows how weak your argument really is.

	Ok.. (2.00 / 1) (#6)
	by DG on Tue Apr 2nd, 2002 at 08:53:12 PM PST

	Provide a source for your facts please, Other wise you show a lack of understanding what a FSB is 133 megahertz is the normal bus speed of a pIII or amd 786 computer, and what the hell is a dipole? do you know anything about how atoms work? provide me a source thats not some random page you found, attacking me for asking for a site thats not random is really weak of you too, you have yet to provide anyone with more than one source that can prove anything you post ie: why has no one come forward with this in the real news? wouldn't cpu makers care that this happens? till i see it on a site with some journalistic integrity otherwise quit posting disinformation � 2002, DG. You may not reproduce this material, in whole or in part, without written permission of the owner.

	Oh come on. (5.00 / 2) (#8)
	by Yoshi on Tue Apr 2nd, 2002 at 09:14:22 PM PST

	What am I, your own personal research project? Excuse me sir, I do my own research, and you do yours. I'm not going to sit here while you take advantage of my generosity and copy my posts and sources verbatim in your little english paper. Other wise you show a lack of understanding what a FSB is 133 megahertz is the normal bus speed of a pIII or amd 786 computer, and what the hell is a dipole? Since that "sentence" is incoherent in its current form, I will do my best to rewrite it with your original intent, yet at the same time applying basic spelling and grammar principles. Otherwise, you show a lack of understanding of what a "FSB" is. 133 fahrenhertz is the resonating frequency of the electrons in any Pentium III or Asian Manufacturing Devices' Athlon computers. Correct you are, sir. And, what the hell is a dipole? Your lack of knowledge of this subject raises an eyebrow as to why you are the one doing the dissenting in the first place. If you don't know why or how this technology takes place, read up on it first like I did. And no, I'm not going to do that work for you. Look it up. We're not your mentor here. why has no one come forward with this in the real news? Quite obvious. They fear the abilities of these lunix superhackers. If you were the New York Times, dealing with the mafia to get your papers through town, would you then do a story on how the mafia is infiltrating the city? Not if your life depends upon it. No Peter Jennings wannabe would attach a name to that article. Fortunately, as elenchos pointed out, a PhD with the credentials to put this to a stop (alter his Pentium 4's resonating frequency FSB decibels) introduced this to the public. till i see it on a site with some journalistic integrity My friend, speak no more, for you have heard it on Adequacy.org.

	amazing (none / 0) (#14)
	by Anonymous Reader on Tue Apr 2nd, 2002 at 10:11:24 PM PST

	Amazing how all sites with journalistic integrity view this site as a big friggin joke. None of them even take elby seriously. I'll try to find that link to an article I read at MSNBC.com This site is used as a source of information to back up many articles. Amazing how Adequacy.org always pisses and moans about TheRegister UK, OSOpinion, Newsfactor, Newsfourge and other sites, unless they want to use it as a source. You did when you posted about Cisco Security Threat....ha ha ha bitch! Now can YOU attack the entire post rather than just picking apart what you THINK doesn't make you look COMPLETELY stupid?

	Subliminal Messages (none / 0) (#26)
	by Yoshi on Wed Apr 3rd, 2002 at 01:24:45 AM PST

	I'll try to find that link to an article I read at MSNBC.com This site is used as a source of information to b[h]ack up many articles. Amazing how Adequacy.org always pisses and moans about TheRegister [S]UK, OSOpinion, Newsfactor, Newsfourge and other sites, unless they want to use it as a source. You did when you posted about Cisco Security Threat....ha ha ha bitch! The FBI has been notified, and I emailed abuse demanding a termination of your internet account. This blatant hacking of dissident websites to your cause will cease, just as I have promised. If I make no more posts to Adequacy.org, someone please carry out my legacy to the full extent of the law on this murderous creep.

	oh no, I'm like really scared ya know (none / 0) (#28)
	by Anonymous Reader on Wed Apr 3rd, 2002 at 02:15:04 AM PST

	The FBI has been notified And yet again it will be trashed I emailed abuse demanding a termination of your internet account. That would make sense if I actually had an AOL account. AOL is not my ISP. I enjoy the benefits, services and lower costs of DSL provided by one of the many phone companies in my area. However, I think AOL would be happy to know that I am using a product distributed by one of their media partners, Red Hat Inc. Not to mention that I am using a Gecko powered web browser (Mozilla) on both my Winblows and Linux boxes. So when AOL 8.0 is released with support for IE having been dropped, I won't have to take the extra time to install Mozilla/Netscape (in case you're not aware Mozilla is the core of Netscape). AOL Moving to Reduce Reliance on Microsoft Newsfactor IE 6.0 is burying Netscape TheRegister UK AOL Moving to Gecko Mozillazine Also I suggest you stop badmouthing news organisations such as CNN seeing as how you Adequacy.org nimrods seem to like AOL so much. You are aware that AOL Time Warner is the parent company of CNN and many other news outlets you guys like to piss and moan about. This blatant hacking of dissident websites to your cause will cease, just as I have promised. Other than completely going off on a paranoid rant, where is any proof of these actions? I don't see you listed as an editor and elby is closest thing this site has to a pudgy server monkey. So quit trying to impress people by pretending you actually have access to anything beyond submitting stories and diaries. If I make no more posts to Adequacy.org, someone please carry out my legacy to the full extent of the law on this murderous creep. Yes, please return to your pathetic existance as a ill-informed writer for the supermarket tabloids. Perhaps that's why you are here as they don't even want you. Given the absolute idiocy written in the White Trash Weekly article you linked to I suspect they might give you a job. I'm sure they could use one more mail room boy/writer/photographer/editor/CEO/janitor/ to make minimum wage. Adequacy.org, the supermarket tabloid of the World Wide Web.

	Christ Yoshi (none / 0) (#33)
	by skilm on Wed Apr 3rd, 2002 at 05:02:59 PM PST

	Don't you ever shut up? This is the same stupid shit you used to argue with me about. Is the weather nice up your own ass?! Allow me to suggest that you try a few things: Become Literate - Learn to read BIG THICK books - not just the ones about the Rabbit and the Turtle Racing, but books about "TCP/IP" and "Computers" and maybe even "Logic" and "Debate". Get some type of medication - I think it's obvious that you are paranoid, and you need help for that condition. Stop Trolling - Threatening people with FBI warrants IS inciting people to anger. Not to mention talking like you don't know what the hell you're doing - and if you insist on making idle threats and continuing your rampage of trolling, I will be forced to report you to the administrators of this fine site. Yoshi, please, for the love of God, SHUT YOUR PIE HOLE!! You'll be doing the educated world a favor!! ------------------------------------------------- Bread + Egg Nog = Bread Nog

	oh please (1.00 / 1) (#15)
	by DG on Tue Apr 2nd, 2002 at 10:23:38 PM PST

	as i said you are an idiot, there is no such thing as a fahrenhertz. it's called a megahertz, i know what a megahertz is, do you? i should have looked up a dipole though.. heh from what i read about it, it has very little to do with computers. maybe you should read about it? it has more to do with physics than computers you need to stop looking up random highbrow words in the dictionary and spouting them off like you know what they mean, from what you post you seem to know very little about computers, oh btw the link is to a hoax.. go look up about it outside of the thing you posted, you will find it's fake � 2002, DG. You may not reproduce this material, in whole or in part, without written permission of the owner.

	Uh? (5.00 / 2) (#25)
	by Yoshi on Wed Apr 3rd, 2002 at 01:14:54 AM PST

	there is no such thing as a fahrenhertz. it's called a megahertz No. megahertz measures the speed of your Core Processing Unit (for example, the latest Pentium 4's run at 2400 MegaHertz, while the latest Asian Manufacturing Devices chips run at only 1670 MegaHertz). Fahrenhertz measures the resonating frequency of the electrons moving through the copper wires in your Pentium 4. i should have looked up a dipole though.. it has more to do with physics than computers Uh, no shit? What'd you think, you were going to watch a video of your computer exploding on your monitor? Of course it has to do with physics. Physics is the way we explain everything occuring in our world. When a computer spontaneously explodes because of the splitting of the dipoles of electrons, it's physics. Not only that, it's thermalnuclear, albeit not enough to do more damage than a hand grenade because of the small size of the Pentium 4. Once again, engineering by American companies such as Intel save hundreds of lives, with the sole exception of the poor soul sitting at their computer desk. Unless it's you.

	Uh? (3.50 / 2) (#29)
	by DG on Wed Apr 3rd, 2002 at 03:19:34 AM PST

	no... they measure bother the cpu and the fsb the same way go read what a megahertz is, there is no such thing as a fahrenhertz, if there was it would be listed as a spec for pcs so stop saying its a fahrenhertz, when it's not, becuse right now you are just posting made up words, almost as entertaining as saying the internet runs on tokens.. it's strange that you claim you know something about pcs and you don't know they measure it the same way? nice word fahrenhertz very creative would help if it's a real word � 2002, DG. You may not reproduce this material, in whole or in part, without written permission of the owner.

	Dude, I sent you a ClueMail (1.66 / 3) (#36)
	by Anonymous Reader on Fri Apr 5th, 2002 at 12:33:49 AM PST

	but you still don't get it, do you?

	gee uh duh (1.00 / 1) (#12)
	by Anonymous Reader on Tue Apr 2nd, 2002 at 10:02:35 PM PST

	Intriguing as the article was, I have done further research to prove the article correct. Must have been in your own head because the rest of your post really makes you look stupid. It turns out that as the email attachment or illegal hacker link infiltrates your browser, it is capable of using your processor's Normal/Natural Thermal Processing core (NNTP) for adjusting the overclock bus rate of your RAM. You could have at least tried to sound intelligent here. Data bus rate of RAM is not controlled by the processor. All overclocking is done through BIOS. Software in Windows cannot play around with setting through CMOS (the user's access to BIOS settings which include boot order so you can boot from CD ROM for example to load Windows). When you 'up' the FSB to 133 degrees fahrenhertz, the resonating frequency of the electrons in your Pentium (or "equivalent" asian processor like AMD) actually splits the dipoles within the atoms. HAHAHAHAHAHA. FSB is megahertz which measures frequecy not temperature. Beyond megahertz is terrahertz, blah blah blah. Also the normal operation of say an AMD Athlon processor is 133MHz. Pentium chips must operate at a higher frequency to be competitive. This, in turn, causes a release of energy parallel to that of a small hand grenade, enough to kill anyone within range of the Core Processing Unit. Blah blah blah. You've already shown you're a big dumb idiot. Also the acronym CPU stands for CENTRAL Processing Unit. Long before themp got high enough to make it explode the core of the CPU would melt, the chip would fry as would the board and the power supply would fail. The computer would immediately shut off and begin to cool down. Other than dealing with black smoke you'd be fine. As for the article itself, if you insult the source rather than the actual content, it just shows how weak your argument really is. I've already insulted the content and now I'll move to the source. Supermarket Tabloids? So now you're trying to tell us that you're white trash? Because no one else reads those except for their comedic value.

	End it now! (5.00 / 3) (#19)
	by jvance on Wed Apr 3rd, 2002 at 12:36:36 AM PST

	Sompbody please send this guy one of these exploding attachments and put him out of his misery. Thank you. -- Adequacy has turned into a cesspool consisting of ... blubbering, superstitious fools arguing with smug, pseudointellectual assholes. -AR

	suggestion (1.66 / 3) (#21)
	by Anonymous Reader on Wed Apr 3rd, 2002 at 01:02:32 AM PST

	Don't use Outlook Express anytime soon to read you email.

	Little correction (5.00 / 1) (#31)
	by The Mad Scientist on Wed Apr 3rd, 2002 at 04:37:39 AM PST

	Other than dealing with black smoke you'd be fine. The smoke is greyish.

	The source of this information... (5.00 / 3) (#3)
	by elenchos on Tue Apr 2nd, 2002 at 08:25:44 PM PST

	...is none other than Dr. Arnold Yorbenson, PhD, of the National CyberCrime Prevention Foundation. My colleagues in the Computer Science field will of course recognize the name. The rest of you (and I mean you Network "Engineers", System Aminidstrators and Program typists) should shut up and have a little respect for expertise. We all know that the hackers have never heard of Dr. Yorbenson, PhD, and will react in the usual way. I do, I do, I do --Bikini Kill

	Wow (1.00 / 1) (#7)
	by DG on Tue Apr 2nd, 2002 at 09:03:07 PM PST

	i should have looked up the so called NCPF on the web.. guess what it's a nice new april fools joke, funny how we over look those things.. nice paranoid rambling though � 2002, DG. You may not reproduce this material, in whole or in part, without written permission of the owner.

	What would a respected academic, (none / 0) (#32)
	by because it isnt on Wed Apr 3rd, 2002 at 05:18:35 AM PST

	like Dr Yorbenson, be doing associating with a newspaper of disrepute like the Weekly World News? That paper has canards like "Trick Cigar Blows Man's Head Off" and "Sneezing Increases Your Bust Size". adequacy.org -- because it isn't

	ADEQUACY.ORG SOURCES REVEALED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (1.66 / 3) (#10)
	by Anonymous Reader on Tue Apr 2nd, 2002 at 09:49:03 PM PST

	Did any bother to look at the link that was provided by the nimrod known as Yoshi? I mean World News Weekly!?! Now Adequacy.org is claiming the SUPERMARKET TABLOIDS are hard hitting trustworthy sources. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

	You seem to be confused (none / 0) (#11)
	by Hansard on Tue Apr 2nd, 2002 at 09:57:35 PM PST

	The source for this news breakthrough, is not, like you presume, the disgusting rag World News Weekly, but in fact the highly respected and well-read Weekly World News. In fact, I doubt Yoshi's information could have come from a more reliable source. Next time, do us all a favor--spend more time checking your "facts" and less cutting and pasting 'H's and 'A's.

	In Other News, (none / 0) (#13)
	by jvance on Tue Apr 2nd, 2002 at 10:03:06 PM PST

	Headless Man Lives - And Walks - for Three Hours. -- Adequacy has turned into a cesspool consisting of ... blubbering, superstitious fools arguing with smug, pseudointellectual assholes. -AR

	Let's not forget Bat Boy. (none / 0) (#16)
	by Anonymous Reader on Tue Apr 2nd, 2002 at 10:37:26 PM PST

	And all the satan sightings. And the article on how to tell if your pet is gay.

	And what about (5.00 / 1) (#17)
	by jvance on Tue Apr 2nd, 2002 at 10:44:08 PM PST

	the giant intact UFO we bought off of the former Soviet Union for 600 billion dollars. What was your cut on that transaction, tkatchev? -- Adequacy has turned into a cesspool consisting of ... blubbering, superstitious fools arguing with smug, pseudointellectual assholes. -AR

	my favorites (none / 0) (#18)
	by Anonymous Reader on Tue Apr 2nd, 2002 at 11:57:52 PM PST

	Devil's skull glows white hot and aliens meat with white house officials

	Sir, (none / 0) (#20)
	by jvance on Wed Apr 3rd, 2002 at 12:43:22 AM PST

	I clicked on the story link you provided, and my computer exploded. -- Adequacy has turned into a cesspool consisting of ... blubbering, superstitious fools arguing with smug, pseudointellectual assholes. -AR

	really? (none / 0) (#22)
	by Anonymous Reader on Wed Apr 3rd, 2002 at 01:03:56 AM PST

	Then your computer must suck. I mean if a simple little JPG can kill your box something is really wrong with your security practices.

	Of course it sucks. (5.00 / 2) (#24)
	by jvance on Wed Apr 3rd, 2002 at 01:11:23 AM PST

	It's now a pile of smoldering circuitboards and shattered silicon. What's your point? -- Adequacy has turned into a cesspool consisting of ... blubbering, superstitious fools arguing with smug, pseudointellectual assholes. -AR

	You are safe (none / 0) (#27)
	by Yoshi on Wed Apr 3rd, 2002 at 01:29:08 AM PST

	I am really sorry, but I assure you that the link had nothing to do with the explosion. I am sure it was a renegade hacker lurking at your presence with his VINC tools when he saw you finally catch on to his plan. My question to you is, how did you get out alive? Is the computer in another room, or is it in some form of dipole-shielding elemental cabinet such as Kryptonite? Either way, we're on the right track. One hacker has been turned in already, and I'm just waiting for more to emerge with their stealthy hacker speak.

	Don't worry... (none / 0) (#34)
	by elby on Thu Apr 4th, 2002 at 01:07:13 PM PST

	I can assure you that each time Adequacy has been approached by the FBI for information on any of our users, we have been most cooperative. -lb

	I hate to break it to you (none / 0) (#35)
	by Anonymous Reader on Thu Apr 4th, 2002 at 09:52:38 PM PST

	But given the apparent vintage of the computer shown with the article, it's quite likely that a hacker COULD turn your monitor into a bomb. Back in the dark ages, you see, monitors didn't have fail-safes to make sure that programmers didn't do Really Dumb Things, and since hackers, while obviously lobotomized by Mad Scientists, probably possessed enough brain neurons to realize that they could blow up peoples' monitors if they wanted to.

	Exploding monitor (none / 0) (#37)
	by The Mad Scientist on Fri Apr 5th, 2002 at 07:18:08 AM PST

	I never heard about a case when a monitor would be convinced to explode by purely software means. The worst (and quite common) I heard about were burned horizontal deflection coil drive transistors.

	Monitors wouldn't explode anyway, (none / 0) (#38)
	by because it isnt on Fri Apr 5th, 2002 at 07:36:17 AM PST

	the best you can do with software is make them catch fire. If you shatter the glass on the front, it implodes. adequacy.org -- because it isn't

	Not even fire. (none / 0) (#39)
	by The Mad Scientist on Fri Apr 5th, 2002 at 08:32:47 AM PST

	the best you can do with software is make them catch fire. Not even that. At least according to European regulations, when a thing has to be approved for sale it has to pass some tests. Between the tests there is a set of inflicted malfunctions; none of them has to lead to fire that would have any chance to spread out of the device's casing. If you shatter the glass on the front, it implodes. Which will take you a lot of effort. The screens are tested to withstand pretty strong impact (I can't remember the specs off-hand but I could ask.) You can't damage the modern monitors by purely software means. With the older ones, all you would be able to do is to render it unusable; the transistors will be dead far earlier than they'd be able to heat up enough to cause fire. Too high HSync leads to overheating of the transistor. Thermal overload of the chip leads to recrystallizing of silicon, which leads to interrruption of the P/N junctions and the transistor stops conducting. (The other mode, a conductive breakdown (not sure about the terminology, translating), is commonly associated with overvoltage.)

	In event of fire, break glass (none / 0) (#40)
	by because it isnt on Fri Apr 5th, 2002 at 09:47:34 AM PST

	Not even that. At least according to European regulations, 'nuff said. If you shatter the glass on the front, it implodes. Which will take you a lot of effort. The screens are tested to withstand pretty strong impact (I can't remember the specs off-hand but I could ask.) That's true. I once had to skip the dud monitors a college had collected over 20 years. When I say 'dud', I mean that the college employed a permanent technician with 20 years experience in repairing monitors and TVs, and these monitors were the ones he couldn't or didn't repair. So, I tried to break the glass on a few monitors. Hurling them in the skip won't do. Bouncing them off the sharp edges of the skip won't do. Dropping them from the first floor won't do (although that does destroy the casing entirely). However, 5 smacks with a hammer will do it. adequacy.org -- because it isn't

	To break... (none / 0) (#41)
	by The Mad Scientist on Fri Apr 5th, 2002 at 10:52:18 AM PST

	...a CRT, the best way is to remove the casing, and get access to the picture tube's socket. There is that glass thingy that's left there after sucking the air from it and melting it off. Put a thick blanket or a coat around the back of the tube (just for sure, maybe this protection is an overkill). Take the pliers. Break off that glass tip at the center of the socket. A hissing sound will tell you that the tube is dehermetized.

	Or, (none / 0) (#42)
	by jvance on Fri Apr 5th, 2002 at 12:19:50 PM PST

	you could just do this -- Adequacy has turned into a cesspool consisting of ... blubbering, superstitious fools arguing with smug, pseudointellectual assholes. -AR

	Tch. Americans. (none / 0) (#43)
	by because it isnt on Mon Apr 8th, 2002 at 06:09:44 AM PST

	Can't they do anything without their precious guns? I was hoping for a monitor with some dynamite, or a rocket attack. But no. It's some fat yanks and their shotguns. It's like "honey, I can't get the top off the pickle jar" and "sure, just let me get mah Smith 'n' Wesson". Or, say the kitchen drawer's sticking a bit and needs oiling. Do you oil it? Hell no, you shoot that varmit 'til it springs open. I hear they even uses guns as a substitute for foreplay. Hopefully, those ones are loaded. adequacy.org -- because it isn't

	Hey! (none / 0) (#44)
	by jvance on Tue Apr 9th, 2002 at 10:19:57 AM PST

	Don't talk about our VP of Engineering that way. -- Adequacy has turned into a cesspool consisting of ... blubbering, superstitious fools arguing with smug, pseudointellectual assholes. -AR

	Your VP of engineering? (none / 0) (#45)
	by because it isnt on Wed Apr 10th, 2002 at 07:09:31 AM PST

	What, was he the one with the stetson and the spurs on his boots? adequacy.org -- because it isn't

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